Sherman in Progess... Almost There!!!
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Posted: Friday, September 24, 2004 - 02:56 PM UTC
For all you guys missed the original thread
click hereHere's more inprog shots
I first applied filtering (hooray! I can do AB again!) then drybrush madly using 2 parts OD + 1 part desert yellow.
Some things more to be done:
sandbag armor
stowages
engine
treads
I'm still thinking if I would still add a whitewash or not.
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Posted: Friday, September 24, 2004 - 03:38 PM UTC
Very cool. I like the scratched thingies. Your tank is turning into a beauty. How did you do those scratches?
I haven't encountered the word "filtering." What is that?
Once again, this is turning out to be an excellent model. Can't wait for pics.
Angela
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Posted: Friday, September 24, 2004 - 03:54 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Very cool. I like the scratched thingies. Your tank is turning into a beauty. How did you do those scratches?
I haven't encountered the word "filtering." What is that?
Once again, this is turning out to be an excellent model. Can't wait for pics.
Angela
Scratches? Those were only done by drybrushing.
Because some parts have been molded having rough textures, drybrushing will help it show better.
Filtering is done using an airbrush in which the paint is too thin. Thicker than wash but thinner than paints....
It's somewhat like either darkening or lightening the model so that colors blend well. In my case, the white decals stand too much. But when I applied a filter, it darken a bit and quite blended with the rest of the body.
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Posted: Friday, September 24, 2004 - 03:56 PM UTC
Darn digital camera!
The decal on the front lower hull should be quite dirty. Must be the "noise minimizer" function of the cam that removes most of the dirt.
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Posted: Friday, September 24, 2004 - 04:35 PM UTC
Oh okay. I did some filtering with my models too even though I didn't know until now what that technique is called.
Hey SR, there is a technique that I found that is really good on your model. It's like filtering. But instead of spraying the model, you drybrush it on. The paint that is used is oil paint. It's translucent quality makes the base paint show through. I'll send you a link once I find it.
Thanks.
...and yes, sometimes digicams do strange things.
Angela
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Posted: Friday, September 24, 2004 - 04:40 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Oh okay. I did some filtering with my models too even though I didn't know until now what that technique is called.
Hey SR, there is a technique that I found that is really good on your model. It's like filtering. But instead of spraying the model, you drybrush it on. The paint that is used is oil paint. It's translucent quality makes the base paint show through. I'll send you a link once I find it.
Thanks.
...and yes, sometimes digicams do strange things.
Angela
Ahh yes..... I've been doing that "dry filtering" for my figures faces (instead of using a wash). If I can recall, first you put the oils on the face, wait a little while then wipe it off and the paint will settle at the recesses right? It would be nice if I also see the link
Well, I want to use the same technique here but I think the shade would be too strong. The bogies had been done using dry filtering and it's too dark. :-)
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Posted: Friday, September 24, 2004 - 05:02 PM UTC
Hmm...I'm not sure what that is called but let's just consider it as "dry filtering."
It involves on drybrusing (yes, your usual drybrushing) a very, very light coat of oil paint to the model's coat. This will alter the color of your model and give it a realistic, metallic appearance.
For example, One of my "clients" wanted me to paint his Russian tank. It was painted with Russian green. I first washed the tank with burnt umber/burnt sienna/black mix. Then when the wash was dry, I "dry filtered" the model with a lighter color of that green shade. When the first coat was was dry, I "dry filtered" the tank again again with a reddish-brown color. Then, I followed it up with normal weathering. The effect is very nice. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to take a pic of that tank.
Darn. Where is that link? I'm going to share it to you once I find it.
Angela
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Posted: Friday, September 24, 2004 - 05:54 PM UTC
Great looking Sherman Ralph. The only thing I'd have done differently would be to make the racks on the sides as welded items rather than bolted/rivited as you have, just reckon that a welder would have been more likely for the guys in the line to find as opposed to a heavy drill etc.
Only a small point on a realy neat build and paint job.
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Posted: Friday, September 24, 2004 - 06:12 PM UTC
Nice work so far Ralph. I like the sandbag armour cages you made they look very good. I'm curious what the light coloured splotches are all over the tank? Are they some kind of camo paint ? Keep em coming
cheers,
Bryan
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Posted: Friday, September 24, 2004 - 06:54 PM UTC
Thanks for the complement guys/gals
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Great looking Sherman Ralph. The only thing I'd have done differently would be to make the racks on the sides as welded items rather than bolted/rivited as you have, just reckon that a welder would have been more likely for the guys in the line to find as opposed to a heavy drill etc.
Only a small point on a realy neat build and paint job.
You're right my friend. It look kinda plain so I just added bolts. But hey, anything happens in the battlefield. :-)
Quoted Text
Nice work so far Ralph. I like the sandbag armour cages you made they look very good. I'm curious what the light coloured splotches are all over the tank? Are they some kind of camo paint ? Keep em coming
cheers,
Bryan
Oh.... those were drybrushing. Mad drybrushing to be exact :-) . Well, I want to represent scratches etc by drybrushing.
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Posted: Friday, September 24, 2004 - 06:58 PM UTC
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Posted: Friday, September 24, 2004 - 07:25 PM UTC
It's getting better and better.Can't wait for the final product.
For the sandbags in my Sherman and my anti-aircraft emplacement, I opted for modeling clay wrapped in tissue paper and soaked in white glue. It's okay but it's a little tedious and messy.
What brand of epoxy putty are you using, Shonen_Red? I haven't found a slow setting brand in SM Hardware. I'm not that fast in sculpting.
Angela
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Posted: Friday, September 24, 2004 - 07:35 PM UTC
Thanks! It's Pioneer Epoxy Putty. It stinks very well.
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Posted: Friday, September 24, 2004 - 07:36 PM UTC
I must say this one is very sticky and leaves a sitcky glue to your hands. Modeling clay looks good too hence the name modeling :-) :-) :-)
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Posted: Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 12:25 AM UTC
Angela, have you tried milliput? Takes about 2 hours to set, and is the epoxy putty that really set the standard.
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Posted: Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 12:46 AM UTC
Hi Dave,
Well, I'd like to try Milliput. Problem here is that it's not available here in Cebu. I checked a lot of hardwares but they only carry those fast setting epoxy putty.
So, I followed a suggested alternate method using modeling clay wrapped in tissue paper and coated with a solution of white glue and water. IT's quite tedious and messy (mainly because of the wrapping) but it works quite well.
However, I would rather like to just sculpt the sandbags without wrapping it with anything.
Angela
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Posted: Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 03:01 AM UTC
Hi Ralph ..Is it me or are your sand bags kinda big? Just my opinion here..Good job so far...
Rick
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Posted: Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 08:22 PM UTC
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Hi Ralph ..Is it me or are your sand bags kinda big? Just my opinion here..Good job so far...
Rick
Lolz.... you're right :-) :-) :-) Maybe I'll add some more smaller ones on top of it
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Posted: Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 02:19 AM UTC
The ones on the front seem squished together with little individual definition. Maybe the pics don't show it well.
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Posted: Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 02:28 AM UTC
So far so good!Will you put it in a dio?
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Posted: Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 03:59 AM UTC
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The ones on the front seem squished together with little individual definition.
I agree with Alan, the sandbags look odd. From the bullet holes I take it that the idea is that the sand has seeped out, but then the bags would be flat, not blobby as they are now. they also seem to follow the contours of the mudguards and lights to smoothly. The bags on the side look good, nicely drapped over the rack. Just the texturing and paint to go then.
Getting better all the time.
Cheers
Henk
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Posted: Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 03:28 PM UTC
Thanks guys! I'll rework the sandbag this weekend.
Bus, well, I don't think I'll put it in a dio since the engine compartment is open and the hatches have been shut tight.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 07:31 AM UTC
Shonen: Just a tip...put powder on your finger when handling the Pioneer expoxy putty....BTW, the Pioneer epoxy putty does not need sunlight to harden...you just need to wet it lightly with water...the moisture in our fingers speeds up the hardening process....
Back to your sherman...looks good execept the some of the sandbags in front...looks squeeshed...
Cheers
