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DDD Surcouf First Impressions
Halfyank
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Colorado, United States
Joined: February 01, 2003
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Posted: Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 06:42 AM UTC
I'm building the S.M Surcouf by Heller in 1/400 scale. This must be some rare beast, even Carl the guy at my LHS says he's only seen one of these kits and when he's tried to order another "Heller Surcouf" he gets sent either a helicopter or some modern frigate type.

The box doesn't give any indication of how old this model is but my guess is it's got to be pushing 30.

The kits consists of a whopping 46 parts molded in a dark gray plastic. The Instructions are written in multiple languages but they aren't really needed, just follow the steps in the pictures. There are six steps. The Conning tower, less main gun turret is nine pieces. Main gun turret is five pieces. Step three is the spotting aircraft, in six pieces. Steps four and five are the left and right propellers, each of three pieces. Final assembly is step six and consists of the five sub-assemblies plus sixteen remaining pieces, and the three-piece stand.

The instructions give paint numbers for both Heller and Humbrol. I'll have to dig up my Humbrol paint cross reference as my French isn't good enough to tell me what colors like "Vert Armee" or "Gris Perle" are. There are only seven colors used, with one of those being for the blue in the French flag. That's right, there are no decals, the instructions include a "flag" you're supposed to cut out and paint red and blue, leaving the white from the sheet showing.

My one written source of information on the Surcouf, Richard Worth's Fleets of World War II, indicates the Surcouf had 12 torpedo tubes, four underwater 21.7inch, four above surface 21.7 inch, and four above water 15.7 inch. The instructions only mention six of the 21.7-inch tubes, and only clearly show four of them at the bow. No indication is made of any above water tubes and I have no idea how to model these.

The Surcouf was a "Cruiser Submarine." It was the only boat made with two 8-inch guns, as it's main armament. Weighing in at 3250 tons on the surface, and 4304 tons submerged the Surcouf was the undersea "Yamato" of her day. She compares to 768-ton S boats the British were building at the time, 250-ton German Type IIA boats, or 1310-ton P boats of the Americans. She wasn't eclipsed by any other nation until the Japanese came out with their 5223-ton I-400 boats.

My first plan was to try to make this kit as a waterline model in a diorama. As soon as I saw the lines of her under the water though I figured to make her a full hull boat. Besides saving me having to cut down her hull this will give an indication of what a weird looking boat this sub was. She looks like Jules Verne designed her. Besides her distinctive big gun turret she had two masts that I have no idea what they did with when she submerged. Underwater she reminds me of the hull shape of German World War I battle cruisers.

I have no P.E. for rails in this size, and I'm too cheap to buy any. I'm going to try to limit myself to giving her a realistic paint job; with some weathering I have in mind.

I plan on posting more images once I've put the main hull together. I doubt the actual build time on this model will be more than a couple hours but I've got some "honey dos" to do later.








GaryKato
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Joined: December 06, 2004
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Posted: Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 06:57 AM UTC
Many thanks for posting the details of the kit! This will probably be the closest I'll come to it.

Here's what I have on the torpedo tubes of the Surcouf. Four fixed 550mm tubes in the bow. The others were on two trainable mounts at the rear of the submarine. Each mount had 1 550mm tube flanked by 2 400mm tubes. You can see them in the instruction diagram as rectangles. One should be at the aft end of the deck and the other should be a bit forward of that one. My source is "French Submarine Development Between the Wars" by John Jordan in "Warship 1991".
garrybeebe
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Posted: Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 09:25 AM UTC
Very good report Rodger! It is going to be very interesting to watch this build unfold. You know I have ran across these kits in the past, but was not into submarines at the time. Now I wish I had of scooped one up! That just realy intreages me with them 8" gun up front. Please keep us posted on your progress!

Cheers,

Garry
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