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Can I enter my.... (GBs Tank Destroyers)
winchweight
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 03:35 AM UTC
Hi guys. I would like to enter this campaign, but the only TD I have is the Nichimo Charioteer MK8. Its a bit of a toy really, designed to be motorised, over scale, thick rubber band tracks etc. But as it's the only one I have, can I use it? The other thing is.... is it a TD? It says so on the box, but I'm not sure and cannot find any references about it.

DaveCox
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 04:54 AM UTC
The British didn't officially have TDs, they classed them all as SP guns, but the 20pdr had a mean tank killing ability so it remains up to the campaign leader here for a decision.
winchweight
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 05:28 AM UTC
Thanks Dave. The Charioteer was based on a Cromwell chassis (I think, although it might have been bigger (Comet?), was turreted and sported a huge gun. As you say, the Brits didn't field TDs persay, but this was one.
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 05:50 AM UTC
I've just read up a bit on Google. The PLO and the Lebanese, the Finns and others bought the Charioteer as a TD. It was based on the Cromwell and sported a larger turret with the 20lb gun. The Brits didn't like it because the armour was too thin and the hull / turret was too high to allow the TD to go hull down for ambush etc. So can I build it????? Can I.......

Martinnnn
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 06:10 AM UTC
I guess it's up to me to decide....

A google search tells me it's a Tank Destroyer


Interesting build btw, never heard of this tank before...

Go for it!

Martin
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 06:16 AM UTC

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I guess it's up to me to decide....

I'm really not sure about this. Looks just like a normal tank to me. Martin



Martin, officially this was an SP gun, and the 20pdr was classed originally as an anti-tank weapon, in fact it became the main gun for the early Centurion.
The Comet and Sherman Firefly were just classed as tanks.
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 07:06 AM UTC
I'm in!!! Whuhoooo!! Thanks Martin. Sorry Dave, I hear your comments though. It'll not be great, I'll never make a silk purse out of this sows ear. I doubt that AM tracks will fit as its outsize. Ah well, its the taking part...yada, yada.....
DaveCox
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 08:16 AM UTC

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I'm in!!! Whuhoooo!! Thanks Martin. Sorry Dave, I hear your comments though. ..



Why sorry - I was on your side mate!!

I like these late & just post-war vehicles - Avenger, Challenger, Charioteer etc. Built a Charioteer prototype from a Cromwell and AccArmour conversion some years ago.


Not a great model, but then It's about 5-6 years old.
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