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SAS Jeep
JPTRR
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Posted: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 01:15 AM UTC
Hello all, here is my freshly completed, just-rejected at IPMS show SAS jeep. These first four shots are pairs of the same photo, in natural light, and with flash. Which do you think looks better?


Now the rest of the shots.

This is Tamiya's venerable kit, built almost OOB. The kit's horrible jerrycans were replaced by castings with scratch-built handles and styrene rails. I built the ammo belt for the .50 Cal. and put straps on the bags and canteens.

Looking at the prototype photos on the instruction sheet I noted the jerrycans were pretty scuffed up. Note that the model cans have slightly varying colors, and some are worse for the wear than others. The right side water can with the canteen on it, not a good view but you can see I put a huge dent in the lower inside corner.

To dirty it up I used pastels mixed with water. The photos I used show these dusty N' dirty, but didn't see much mud. I figure this jeeps is raiding in the arid area, as they probabaly worn different garb as they moved closer to wetter Tunisia. Thus, I decided I would put no mud on the vehicle, though as per the photos, I do show a build-up of dust in the treads of the tires.

Speaking of the tires, note there is a seam on the left front tire. This is to simulate a newly applied tire; my inspiration is a post about the US 37mm ATG someone posted a month or so ago--look at the photos, you'll see big seams on both tires! I posted a humorous (?) comment concening that.

I avoided rusting the machine except around the radiator condensor can. I read in "Rommel's Army in Afrika" that rust was usually a fine powdery brown, easily wiped off. So there is some rust, but mostly as concentrations of brown powder collecting in and mixing with, dust.
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Posted: Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 12:17 AM UTC
Fred

Nice looking jeep, the weathering is very well done and the crew even look a tad sunburnt.

What do you mean by "rejected" by IPMS? You should be very happy with your work.

Brian
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Posted: Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 10:02 AM UTC
I for one like it, overall a very convincing effort in my opinion. The jerrycans and straps turned out very nice. Only criticism that I can offer is the barrel on the .50 could be drilled out, and that is being nit picky. The pics taken with the flash show up better, at least on my monitor. I think you did great, it's nice to see these older kits being built.

Anthony
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Posted: Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 10:15 AM UTC
I really like your model, and I can´t see what do you mean by this model being "rejected" on the contest, looks damn good to me!
This model was one of the first military models that I made long ago, and seeing yours makes me feel triying it again...
Keep up the excelent work.
Cheers
Paulo
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Posted: Friday, May 27, 2005 - 01:52 AM UTC
Hey you got in one rust is usually fastest in areas of high humidity an salinity not the desert areas that the SAS mainly operated ( they only operated on coastal area for little time-usually blowing up thingies LOL :-) :-) Love the work a suggestion -sometimes painted the jerry can carrying water a different colour or put a white cross on-usually one n the side of vehicle with the water bottle attached -logical. Also used canvas water bags -some of the guys were rcruited from colonies like NZ and such. - they look lik they have seen a lot of sun - leavethe eye areas paler due to goggles and also possibly peking under burnoose where it has moved leaving an untanned area, hope this will help
Ian
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Posted: Sunday, May 29, 2005 - 06:05 PM UTC
Anthony, Brian, Ian and Paulo,

Thank you for your praise and useful criticism

I can not believe I did NOT drill out the muzzels! I've done that for years now!

Untanned skin around the eyes--excellent catch! I thought I was clever by placing the goggles over light and dark backgrounds and tinting accordingly, yet I overlooked the obvious "reverse raccoon" effect around the eyes.

"Rejected" at the IPMS show in that it had only six other peers in the category, yet did not even get an honorable mention , though IMHO it was THE best (though I am a bit bias ) On the other hand, my KV-85 got honorable mention against competition which IMHO blew it off the table, Ah, the peculiarities of shows...

I am planning to rectify what you gentlemen brought to my attention.

One thing I am pondering is putting a gloss over the flesh tones--would the sweat make them look wet, glossy--or would the sweat capture enough dust to keep them matt?

Otherwise, I plan to stow a bit more baggage on the beast, perhaps a canvas water bag.

Thank you again! I appreciate your input.

All my best,

Fred
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Posted: Saturday, July 23, 2005 - 11:13 PM UTC
Nice jeep
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Posted: Friday, August 12, 2005 - 04:55 AM UTC
I really like that little Jeep kit. I built on several years ago, while serving in the Middle East. Nice job, Fred
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Posted: Friday, August 12, 2005 - 06:21 AM UTC
I would avoid the gloss to make them look sweaty. Sweat stains around the back of the neck and armpits of the shirts would probably be the way to go IMHO. Speaking from experience (I work in a foundry) when you sweat around dust the stuff sticks to you. Guys sometimes leave here looking like they work in a coal mine when it is hot because the black dust sticks to you everywhere. The SAS guys would probably be covered in fine tan dust as well.

Shaun
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Posted: Friday, August 12, 2005 - 11:58 AM UTC
I prefer the photos without the flash, since it produces less glossiness. If you photo-shop (all photo editing softwear allow you to lighten, doesn't have to be Photoshop) to lighten them, they will appear with out the excess camera flash, imparting an excessive amount of gloss to the photo.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 12:44 PM UTC
It's a pity it didn't make it coz it definitely deserves to be in as the weathering is very well done. Nice touch on the .50 caliber belt. I kinda of like the natural light photos coz it provides more subtle contrast.

This is one model I really enjoyed putting together waaaay back when I was a kid (although the missus still think I'm one when she observes my obsession when building kits). BTW just a tiny suggestion, there are 2 reflectors I believe on both sides just after the 2 back wheels. I remember painting mine red with a layer of gloss over it to simulate glass and then weathering it down. The other is if your thinking of replacing the hose on the condenser can with something pliable I'd suggest fishing line, 4-6lbs. strength should give you a decent diameter and painting it over.

Minor details really considering you've got a well done model.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 07:57 AM UTC
Oh, that's a beauty - I built one of those a zillion years ago and it was nowhere near that nice. I prefer the natural-light picture, and think if you put the model on a piece of yellowish/tan fabric you might get a very desert-like look. Perhaps a light high above (instead of a flash) might look more sun-like? My one bit of (hopefully constructive) criticism is the spare tires - why are they all sand-caked? Or did the SAS regularly swap tires around?
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Posted: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 - 09:54 AM UTC

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My one bit of (hopefully constructive) criticism is the spare tires - why are they all sand-caked? Or did the SAS regularly swap tires around?



Hi Lee,

Thanks for the comments.

All pix I've seen of anything operating in dust conditions, be it the desert, or NW Europe or even Guadalcanal a few hours after a rain*, shows dust settling on everything. And the dust seeks low/protected spots. So this simulated dust that has settled and not blown off yet.

Some good pix URLs are here: Dust on AFVs
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Posted: Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 06:07 AM UTC
Works for me - thanks!
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