Hi Everyone
Here is my Tamiya Panzer IV D OOTB an oldy but a goody its almost finished I need to revisit after the Sturmtiger.
Thanks to Andy 007's support and encouragement to post these pictures.
All feedback is welcome and appreciated.
Regards
Fordboy
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The Mighty Panzer IVD
Fordboy
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Posted: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 06:15 PM UTC
Angela
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Posted: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 06:55 PM UTC
I like it.
Now this is the kind of tank that would be a very good subject for weathering.
1) Rust it up. Rust on dark gray looks very good. Just don't overdo it. Tools, tracks, spare tracks and bolts are excellent locations.
2) paint the rubber rims of the road wheels. From the pics, it seems that you haven't painted them.
3) The placement of the bag and helmet is a bit awkward.
4) More stowage such as tent rolls, bed rolls, backpacks and other stuff.
5) Lastly, the turret's open side screams for a figure.
Very nice.
Angela
Now this is the kind of tank that would be a very good subject for weathering.
1) Rust it up. Rust on dark gray looks very good. Just don't overdo it. Tools, tracks, spare tracks and bolts are excellent locations.
2) paint the rubber rims of the road wheels. From the pics, it seems that you haven't painted them.
3) The placement of the bag and helmet is a bit awkward.
4) More stowage such as tent rolls, bed rolls, backpacks and other stuff.
5) Lastly, the turret's open side screams for a figure.
Very nice.
Angela
jazza
Singapore / 新加坡
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Posted: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 06:59 PM UTC
Call me bias for supporting my fellow kiwi but those are some nice photos. Just the right amount of weathering without going too much overboard.
Having said that though, i would probably add a little more rust to it, especially the tracks, paying more attention to applying rust to the little gaps between each track. Thats just me though.
Having said that though, i would probably add a little more rust to it, especially the tracks, paying more attention to applying rust to the little gaps between each track. Thats just me though.
andy007
Wellington, New Zealand
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Posted: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 10:11 PM UTC
Sean, I told you everyone would be supportive of your models and would give constructive comments.
As I have said on MSN maybe just a litlle more drybrushing.
As I have said on MSN maybe just a litlle more drybrushing.
pzkfwmk6
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Posted: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 10:44 PM UTC
Inside of barrel is still panzergrau, and that jerry can would fly off at the first bump or turn. Always have your gear secured unless the crew is working with it. Otherwise a good job
Posted: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 10:55 PM UTC
A very good job with an old Tamiya kit Fordboy. It is a good reminder why Tamiya was the topdog for so many years..
I like the finish you have achieved, and as it seems to be a relativly clean and undamaged vehicle it would say that it's not been ' to hell and back' yet. I would therefore not add anymore rust. Rust is not as plentiful as some might believe, armour plate takes years to show a little bit of rust, and tracks and assorted fittings will only rust if the tank has been standing for a few days. And besides that, the crew would not let that happen, as they would no doubt have their ass chewed if they neglected their maintanance that badly..
Sorry for the lenghty blah-blah, but I think you did an excellent job, and wouldn't like to see you ruin it .
Two things that spring out for me to be addressed are the exhaust, which is to shiny, and the lack of markings and nummbers, which would have been present on a early war vehicle such as this.
Overall a very good job.
Cheers
Henk
I like the finish you have achieved, and as it seems to be a relativly clean and undamaged vehicle it would say that it's not been ' to hell and back' yet. I would therefore not add anymore rust. Rust is not as plentiful as some might believe, armour plate takes years to show a little bit of rust, and tracks and assorted fittings will only rust if the tank has been standing for a few days. And besides that, the crew would not let that happen, as they would no doubt have their ass chewed if they neglected their maintanance that badly..
Sorry for the lenghty blah-blah, but I think you did an excellent job, and wouldn't like to see you ruin it .
Two things that spring out for me to be addressed are the exhaust, which is to shiny, and the lack of markings and nummbers, which would have been present on a early war vehicle such as this.
Overall a very good job.
Cheers
Henk
bilko
Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 11:49 PM UTC
Fordboy
Very nice build. I second Henk's comments regarding rust. Probab;y a bit more paint for the inners of the road wheels and the rubber on the wheels.
I like the cobblestone base.
Brian
Very nice build. I second Henk's comments regarding rust. Probab;y a bit more paint for the inners of the road wheels and the rubber on the wheels.
I like the cobblestone base.
Brian
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 01:29 AM UTC
Ditto on the gerry can, exhaust and the open side door comments.
For future reference, here comes the tedious part, you should sand off the mold seam on the road wheels.
Otherwise, a good looing kit.
For future reference, here comes the tedious part, you should sand off the mold seam on the road wheels.
Otherwise, a good looing kit.
airwarrior
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Posted: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 03:45 AM UTC
I think it looks good. Just paint the roadwheels black, and dullcoat the exhaust. I don't think the seams on the tires are a problem. It's an early war tank, with what appears little use, so maybe the seams would still be on the rubber wheels?
Posted: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 04:48 AM UTC
Good looking Mk IV.
Note your high-3 qtr shot, you can see into the gap between roadwheel halves. I suggest always paint the inside of the bogies black or dirt.
I think your level of weathering and rust is sufficent, unless you want to show an Eastern Front tank that has been around awhile.
I would put some scuff marks on it, take a soft pencil and rub along the hatches, edges of the glacis and fenders--anywhere the crew would traffic frequently. Avoid silver or steel--too shiney. Look at a local bulldozer or any heavy equipment to see how painted steel looks with a lot of abrasion.
Dirty that Jerrycan, put POL (petrol, oil and Lubricants) stains on the back decking. Dull the exhaust.
Note your high-3 qtr shot, you can see into the gap between roadwheel halves. I suggest always paint the inside of the bogies black or dirt.
I think your level of weathering and rust is sufficent, unless you want to show an Eastern Front tank that has been around awhile.
I would put some scuff marks on it, take a soft pencil and rub along the hatches, edges of the glacis and fenders--anywhere the crew would traffic frequently. Avoid silver or steel--too shiney. Look at a local bulldozer or any heavy equipment to see how painted steel looks with a lot of abrasion.
Dirty that Jerrycan, put POL (petrol, oil and Lubricants) stains on the back decking. Dull the exhaust.
Posted: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 05:39 AM UTC
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For future reference, here comes the tedious part, you should sand off the mold seam on the road wheels.
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don't think the seams on the tires are a problem. It's an early war tank, with what appears little use, so maybe the seams would still be on the rubber wheels?
We spend years cleaning the moldlines of wheels ( and Al is right, it's a tedious job. I won't be building a Tiger or Panther anytime soon again.. :-) ) and DML comes along and tells us that they are specialy molded to represent the real moldline.. . I forsee some heated arguments at competition judgings.. :-) :-) .
Cheers
Henk
oldstl1000
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Posted: Friday, October 07, 2005 - 04:07 AM UTC
A very fine specimen. The only thing I would change is to make it little more war beaten. I looks to new, like it just rolled off the factory floor. But as I had stated with the Strumtiger, do what makes you happy.
Later,
JOHN
Fordboy
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Posted: Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 01:22 PM UTC
Hi Everyone
Thanks so much to you for taking the time to review my current project your valuable feedback is truly appreciated.
I personally found it real hard to put up photos of my work when there are so many great modellers displaying their work on the site. However all your feedback and support has been great. Heck I didn't think anyone woul;d even look at them.
Angela -I will incorporate your comments into my further weathering process. The feedback from such a great modeller like yourself is really appreciated.
Jazza - Thanks for the feedback fellow kiwi yes those tracks will get some more weathering
I think I will stay out of the Panzer IV wheel debate LOl.
However to come is a figure and a whole lot of stuff on the rear deck with a view of the tank has stopped in a street in Poland 1939 in the first week of hostilities and the crew are liberating supplies etc. This will explain stuff being temporarily thrown on board and yet to be stowed and secured.
I have not added a lot of rust and filth as I was aiming at the early part of the campaign.
As soon as I am finished with the Sturmtiger I will finish the Panzer IV.
Thanks again and I will update you further with more photos real soon I promise.
Regards
Thanks so much to you for taking the time to review my current project your valuable feedback is truly appreciated.
I personally found it real hard to put up photos of my work when there are so many great modellers displaying their work on the site. However all your feedback and support has been great. Heck I didn't think anyone woul;d even look at them.
Angela -I will incorporate your comments into my further weathering process. The feedback from such a great modeller like yourself is really appreciated.
Jazza - Thanks for the feedback fellow kiwi yes those tracks will get some more weathering
I think I will stay out of the Panzer IV wheel debate LOl.
However to come is a figure and a whole lot of stuff on the rear deck with a view of the tank has stopped in a street in Poland 1939 in the first week of hostilities and the crew are liberating supplies etc. This will explain stuff being temporarily thrown on board and yet to be stowed and secured.
I have not added a lot of rust and filth as I was aiming at the early part of the campaign.
As soon as I am finished with the Sturmtiger I will finish the Panzer IV.
Thanks again and I will update you further with more photos real soon I promise.
Regards