_GOTOBOTTOM
Constructive Feedback
For in-progress or completed build photos. Give and get contructive feedback!
Hosted by Darren Baker, Dave O'Meara
T34/76 re-work
mikado
Visit this Community
Singapore / 新加坡
Joined: July 10, 2005
KitMaker: 329 posts
Armorama: 254 posts
Posted: Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 12:00 PM UTC
Hi all,

I decided to take one of my previous completed model and re-work on it to try out my air-brushing and weathering technique.

It seems like the more I try, the result is worst. The first picture was the completed model and the second is the re-work...

I found out that I have no control over the weathering technique and everytime I weather, I get different results and I cannot the results I want

Anyone out there face similar situation as me ?

As usual, comments and suggestions to help me improve my modelling hobby is very welcome...

Please comment freely....






Slug
Visit this Community
Alberta, Canada
Joined: September 02, 2004
KitMaker: 705 posts
Armorama: 505 posts
Posted: Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 12:18 PM UTC
Hi Mikado, I have to agree with you I like your first attempt better
(I like the dusty look)
I find as I progress in this hobby I have more and more control over my final results on a given model. But if my weather turns out really good, but not really what I was trying for, I will generally go with it and not try to change it .
With every little mistake there is a big peice of experience to put in your tool kit for next time :-).


cheers
Bruce
umustb
Visit this Community
Singapore / 新加坡
Joined: April 27, 2005
KitMaker: 1,396 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Posted: Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 07:59 PM UTC
Hi Mikado,

It looks like you've washed off all your weathering there after re-working on your T34.

What kind of weathering technique were you planning to do?
mikado
Visit this Community
Singapore / 新加坡
Joined: July 10, 2005
KitMaker: 329 posts
Armorama: 254 posts
Posted: Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 07:34 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi Mikado,

It looks like you've washed off all your weathering there after re-working on your T34.

What kind of weathering technique were you planning to do?


Hi umustb and Brue

Good questions, what kind of weathering I am planning ??? Mmm......I was thinking of something like in the summer where it is dry and full of dust.

Anyway, I re-work the model and below is my updated. I may need to re-do the mub again...maybe spray some flat earth or buff color to it....

Please feel free to comment , thanks in advance....



umustb
Visit this Community
Singapore / 新加坡
Joined: April 27, 2005
KitMaker: 1,396 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Posted: Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 07:58 AM UTC
Hi Mikado... the weathering on the T34 looks much better now. What did you use for the mud? It looks like wall putty mixed with acrylic paints.
3442
Visit this Community
Quebec, Canada
Joined: March 23, 2004
KitMaker: 2,412 posts
Armorama: 1,174 posts
Posted: Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 09:34 AM UTC
Get a hold of weathering powders and jsut brush'm on. An earth tone will lighten up the tank if thats what you wish
I realy love the way the second try worked out.

Frank
warthog
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Joined: July 29, 2002
KitMaker: 1,460 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Posted: Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 10:06 AM UTC
Hi Mikado,

Your weathering looks OK to me. As the others said, the second try is better.

IMHO, the mud looks a bit dark for my taste. When mud dries it takes a lighter shade...the dark shade is for wet mud.

BTW, if you want the dusty look, then use pastel chalks mixed with some very very very thin acrylic paint.

Cheers
mikado
Visit this Community
Singapore / 新加坡
Joined: July 10, 2005
KitMaker: 329 posts
Armorama: 254 posts
Posted: Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 10:49 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi Mikado,

BTW, if you want the dusty look, then use pastel chalks mixed with some very very very thin acrylic paint.

Cheers


Hi Arvin and Francios,

Thanks for the comment....I know where I can get MMP power here in Singapore as the shop I go to have them, but I have never try them out...

One questions on using the pastel chalks mxied with very thin arcylic paint...do airbrush the mixture into the mud to achieve a lighter effect or do I brush them on ?

Thanks again
warthog
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Joined: July 29, 2002
KitMaker: 1,460 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Posted: Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 01:28 PM UTC

Quoted Text


Quoted Text

Hi Mikado,

BTW, if you want the dusty look, then use pastel chalks mixed with some very very very thin acrylic paint.

Cheers


One questions on using the pastel chalks mxied with very thin arcylic paint...do airbrush the mixture into the mud to achieve a lighter effect or do I brush them on ?

Thanks again


Just brush them on., let it dry and using a dry soft brush remove the excess pastel chalk. The acrylic paint helps some of the pastel chalk to stick on the kit thus showing a dusty look...

This what I'm talking about...see the rear part of the fender as well as other parts of the tank. Its a mixture of acrylic, isoprophyl alcohol and pastel chalk.



Cheers
HONEYCUT
Visit this Community
Victoria, Australia
Joined: May 07, 2003
KitMaker: 4,002 posts
Armorama: 2,947 posts
Posted: Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 01:54 PM UTC

Quoted Text

.

IMHO, the mud looks a bit dark for my taste. When mud dries it takes a lighter shade...the dark shade is for wet mud.


Agreed here. Think that you could lighten the existing mud to replicate dried mud, then recreate the dark colour you have now with a gloss finish for the wetter, fresher mud... Maybe the fresher mud would be more prevalent?
Cheers
Brad
jlmurc
Visit this Community
England - East Anglia, United Kingdom
Joined: August 29, 2005
KitMaker: 1,267 posts
Armorama: 969 posts
Posted: Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 02:27 PM UTC
Hi Mikado,

I personally prefer the original painting and weathering but the second is really nice too.

I guess that we all strive to define our own personal standards and style of weathering. I would say that you should not try to achieve the same effect each time as it is not a problem to make your models unique to your own individual preferences and style. Keeping it different for each model, means that you will not get bored with a similarity of each project and will mean that each one you share will show your true skills.

Hope this helps.

John
mikado
Visit this Community
Singapore / 新加坡
Joined: July 10, 2005
KitMaker: 329 posts
Armorama: 254 posts
Posted: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 05:59 AM UTC
Hi all,

It was a long weekend here in Singapore so I thought I wrapped put this weathering for the T34/76...It has been fun experimenting the different way of weathering and the suggestions given for this thread has been really helpful...

I have a questions for all of you guys out there...do you know when would be the best time to stop weathering the model without over-doing it.....I don't...luckily my SWMBO told me to stop else I might "weather-damage" it....

Here is my last post for this model...I will stop working on this model now and focus on something else...

As usual, please feel free to give any comment or suggestions which I can use for my built....














Grifter
Visit this Community
North Carolina, United States
Joined: November 17, 2002
KitMaker: 608 posts
Armorama: 425 posts
Posted: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 06:15 AM UTC
That looks great. I like the mud lightened much better than the first time around when it was so dark.

Oh, I would find some way to fasten down that box, it looks as if it would fall off in about 10 feet of travel. Maybe some fine thread to simulate a rope tying it to the grabhandles?
Herchealer
Visit this Community
Indiana, United States
Joined: July 31, 2003
KitMaker: 1,523 posts
Armorama: 710 posts
Posted: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 08:19 AM UTC
I like the looks of the second one much better now, one small question though.... Why would there be so much mud on the front of the tank?? I guess It would be Ok if the tank did i lot of backing up, I dont know just me... Or maybe going through a lot of deep mud, as in hitting puddles at high speed....


Looks good though

Herky
umustb
Visit this Community
Singapore / 新加坡
Joined: April 27, 2005
KitMaker: 1,396 posts
Armorama: 0 posts
Posted: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 11:07 AM UTC
Hi Mikado,

It's way better now.

Like what Greg said, I think that crate should be tied down.


Quoted Text

do you know when would be the best time to stop weathering the model without over-doing it


When you're happy with what you've done. Weather in stages and you'll minimize over doing it.
warthog
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Joined: July 29, 2002
KitMaker: 1,460 posts
Armorama: 1,080 posts
Posted: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 11:27 AM UTC
It looks very good now. I totally agree with SWMBO about the weathering :-)
PanzerEd
Visit this Community
Northern Ireland, United Kingdom
Joined: January 14, 2006
KitMaker: 432 posts
Armorama: 402 posts
Posted: Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 05:25 AM UTC
Hi,

What shade of green did you use for your base colour on your first attempt? I am trying to get the same colour on a T34 that I am doing at the moment but cannot get the colour quite right.
 _GOTOTOP