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Dragons Firefly Vc
ponysoldier
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Oklahoma, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 01:24 AM UTC
Greetings
I'm building Dragons Firefly Vc Kit # 6182.The instructions indicate
that the idler wheel has a rubber coating(black),yet when I research this
I see no sign of the rubber idler.So what is the straight scoop on this?
Rubber or steel.
Thanks in advance
Patrick
AlanL
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Posted: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 01:35 AM UTC
Hi Patrick,

To the best of my knowledge the idler wheel was steel.

Cheers

Al
hogarth
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Posted: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 01:53 AM UTC
It was steel. I've seen many examples in person, and there's no rubber on them. Dragon instructions are always a bit "chancy", so please post other questions you may have. As I recall, the idler mounts are also an issue on that one, as the kit comes with several options.

Rob
ponysoldier
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Posted: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 02:09 AM UTC
Ah yes there are two different idler mounts and the instructions are
at best chancy.I've found alot of pictures on this tank,but none
from the rear or least pictures that are clear enough too see.
What I've noticed is this kit has a large supply of supply of spare
parts but no clear idea on were things are supposed to go...
This is only my second M-4 the other being tamiyas M-4 heavy,
and I've noticed the numerious varients of the M-4 and I just
want to get this thing right
Patrick
ponysoldier
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Posted: Monday, April 30, 2007 - 05:31 AM UTC
Just checked out your firefly an excellent effort. If you dont mind
me asking how did you do the two color weathering?
patrick
spyder50
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Posted: Friday, December 14, 2007 - 05:38 AM UTC
hi
i have some pictures of the firefly with rubber idler wheels on it and i also seen another with what appeared to be a steel one but a closer look it may just have had the rubber painted green .and looking back just now i have a few pictures with the rubber one the regualr sherman has steel if you want a pic i can send it to ya

cheers
ericadeane
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Posted: Friday, December 14, 2007 - 06:45 AM UTC
Although you've dredged up an older thread, I want to correct something. Your photo of a possible rubber idler wheel must only be paint. The VVS Sherman idlers were all steel. Only the HVSS idler had a rubber tire.

Confusion exists because some museums or "gate guardians" have had the rear idler painted black. The idler and the return roller wheels were absolutely all steel. HTH

However, I'd love to look at the photos you are citing (after all, I'm sure you aren't a lunatic ). Pls fwd to me if possible. [email protected]. Thnx!
INDIA11A
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Posted: Friday, December 14, 2007 - 07:04 AM UTC
Fell in that same trap when I started building Shermans. But I have reformed . Easy enough to do but Armorama does help back onto the straight and narrow.

Doug
Chas78_wa
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Posted: Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 10:37 AM UTC
Yep...Roy is definately right about this.

Btw, that's an awesome kit with tons of detail.

Charlie
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