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MVisser
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Posted: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 10:36 PM UTC
Hi,

here is my first diorama, it isn't completely finished.
The inside of the building has to be weathered and the doors and windows have to be painted.

I hope you like it.



Overview with tank + figures




Detail photos












Tips/comments are very welcome

Greets Martin
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 11:31 PM UTC
Overall, mit's quite good for a first timer. I like the general feel of the scene. The rust of the spare track is very convincing and the French newspaper is a nice touch. Construction looks pretty solid, though there's a bit of silvering on the galcis star.
Some things to think of...the relatioship between the figs in front of the tank not very strong. The BAR guy looks too stigff (and is back on his heels) , He'd look more natural if he were cradling the gun under one arm or was holding the muzzle with the stock on the ground.
The guy lifting the bedroll could have his left hand repositioned. As it is, it looks like he's lifting the roll on hte back of his hand.
I'd recnsider teh guy aiming out the window. While he might be guarding the guys below, they look too casual lto need that.
But, all in all, a great start in dioramas.
MVisser
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Posted: Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 12:01 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Overall, mit's quite good for a first timer. I like the general feel of the scene. The rust of the spare track is very convincing and the French newspaper is a nice touch. Construction looks pretty solid, though there's a bit of silvering on the galcis star.
Some things to think of...the relatioship between the figs in front of the tank not very strong. The BAR guy looks too stigff (and is back on his heels) , He'd look more natural if he were cradling the gun under one arm or was holding the muzzle with the stock on the ground.
The guy lifting the bedroll could have his left hand repositioned. As it is, it looks like he's lifting the roll on hte back of his hand.
I'd recnsider teh guy aiming out the window. While he might be guarding the guys below, they look too casual lto need that.
But, all in all, a great start in dioramas.



Thanks for you comment,
I should have mention that the figures aren’t fix yet.
I could change something with the figures, maybe add some other. I was thinking of the "Look what I found" set from verlinden products.

Greets Martin
KellyZak
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Posted: Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 12:03 AM UTC
Hi Martin,
Very nice so far, not much more to add to Al's comments, I notice the jeep isn't quite sitting flush with the ground (right front wheel), add a little rubble under it and it will be fine, and I would add a ladder for the gi up on the second floor. Is that a MiniArt building?
MVisser
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Posted: Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 12:07 AM UTC

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Hi Martin,
Very nice so far, not much more to add to Al's comments, I notice the jeep isn't quite sitting flush with the ground (right front wheel), add a little rubble under it and it will be fine, and I would add a ladder for the gi up on the second floor. Is that a MiniArt building?



Hi Kelly,

The jeep isn't fixed on the ground so I can still move it.
It is one part of the MiniArt building. (which turned out to be a great base for a diorama, even for beginners like me :-) )
MVisser
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Posted: Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 01:09 AM UTC
A little update:

I removed the figure from the window.
I've weathered the building (a grey wash to get cement between the bricks)
The jeep's taillights has been painted
and I've put some furniture in the building (the second door and a cupboard)

Some pictures will follow.

More comments are welcome

Martin
PanzerEd
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Posted: Monday, March 12, 2007 - 05:38 PM UTC
Its looking good for a starter dio. Im trying to get some quality time to get something done myself.

Des
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Posted: Monday, March 12, 2007 - 06:55 PM UTC
Looks good so far, nothing really to add except that I agree with what the other guys have said. Oh yeah, your figures look a little to 'clean' and appear to have a satin finish in places. I'd suggest adding a wash to them to 'dirty them up a bit'!
Otherwise an excellent (and ambitious) first diorama!

James
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Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 05:05 PM UTC
Martin,

Great for a first diorama. Pretty much agree with what the other guys said as regards constuctive comments.

My main criticism would be of the figures' faces & hands - far too "monotone flesh" and clean. They would benefit greatly from some shading & highlighting with oils (tip: don't use "flesh" colour paint for flesh!)

I have to say though that you've done a grand job on the inside of the Tank Destroyer, lots of very nice details in there. The cobblestones and rubble look pretty good as well.

I know what James means when he comments on the "satin" finish, but that could be down to your camera and / or photography technique. I have the same problem if I try to photograph my own models: What looks nice and "matt" to the naked eye ends up with a glossy sheen in a photo
HONEYCUT
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Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 05:18 PM UTC
Wow Martin
The base and ground work look terrific in the first couple of shots; very convincing tones used.
Me reckons the building would benefit from some dust from the ground for a couple of feet? There is also the potential to have a lighter mortar- course for the brickwork, this may make the building tie in with the base more? As simple as wiping some light brown pastel chalk wetted on a rag or finger... The figures look well selected and the vehicles look great!
Good character interaction, although the sniper in the window is over kill in his 'ready' pose, methinks...
You have paid good attention to finer little details like the roadsign and newspaper, and therefore for your next diorama I reckon it is not beyond you to make your own tarps and bedrolls etc. for a better fit and added realism.
All the best
Brad
MVisser
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Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 05:32 PM UTC
Thanks for the replies, but I allready had made some final photos Loading up finished
Where I've weatherd the building and the figures.

I hope you like it

Greets Martin
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