Gentlemen,
Here's a bunch of photos I took at the Kecel collection, Hungary.
http://news.webshots.com/album/558590558AqkOEf
Would you please help me ID the vehicles? (Hope you like them.)
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spongya
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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 07:37 AM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 08:47 AM UTC
Andras,
Picture #1: Airplane
Picture #2: Cannon
Picture #3: Cannon
Picture #4: Wheeled Dozer Thing.
On a serious note....I don't know the names or nomenclatures of the vehicles. BUT, your second and third pictures are VERY interesting....dually towed Artillery???? Not seen that before!
I certainly hope someone out there can identify them (and the rest for that matter!).
Thank you for posting them! Here's a couple to the solution!
Mike
Picture #1: Airplane
Picture #2: Cannon
Picture #3: Cannon
Picture #4: Wheeled Dozer Thing.
On a serious note....I don't know the names or nomenclatures of the vehicles. BUT, your second and third pictures are VERY interesting....dually towed Artillery???? Not seen that before!
I certainly hope someone out there can identify them (and the rest for that matter!).
Thank you for posting them! Here's a couple to the solution!
Mike
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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 12:22 PM UTC
Andras- Thank you for sharing the photos. Really enjoyed the T-34/85! Cheers-
Rob-
MiG-17
Rob-
MiG-17
Drader
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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 12:40 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Andras,
Picture #1: Airplane
Picture #2: Cannon
Picture #3: Cannon
Picture #4: Wheeled Dozer Thing.
On a serious note....I don't know the names or nomenclatures of the vehicles. BUT, your second and third pictures are VERY interesting....dually towed Artillery???? Not seen that before!
I certainly hope someone out there can identify them (and the rest for that matter!).
Thank you for posting them! Here's a couple to the solution!
Mike
The gun's a Soviet ML-20 152mm, standard WW2 piece. Couldn't view many of the other pics before my PC fell over, but there seemed like a lot of post-WW2 engineering stuff.
David
Grumpyoldman
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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 03:46 PM UTC
I know nuttin about modern Russian stuff. Only one I could ID for sure has already been done by Dave. But they sure did have a lot of various ditch digging stuff. Interesting photos Andras. Thanks for posting the link.
Mike- thanks for the morning laugh.
Quoted Text
Picture #1: Airplane
Picture #2: Cannon
Picture #3: Cannon
Picture #4: Wheeled Dozer Thing
Mike- thanks for the morning laugh.
Red4
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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 07:55 PM UTC
Andras, thanks for posting the link. From the looks of everything, it is pretty well preserved for being outside, especially the engines. From what I saw, this is what I can offer in way ID. Theres more, but I think you know those already, T34, BMP1 etc.. Hope this helps. "Q"
1- Mig-23
12- Mi-1 Hare
14- Mi-8/17 Hip
15- Mi-24D
40- SA-4 Ganef
41- SA-6 Gainful
43- 2S1 122mm SPG
44- 2S3 152mm SPG
46- ZSU-57/2 AAA
90- SA-2 Guideline
101- SA-9 Gaskin
111- BTR-152
151- SU-22
162- Saab Draken (I believe)
190- Mig 23 trainer I believe. Have never seenthe two seat version before. Very cool.
1- Mig-23
12- Mi-1 Hare
14- Mi-8/17 Hip
15- Mi-24D
40- SA-4 Ganef
41- SA-6 Gainful
43- 2S1 122mm SPG
44- 2S3 152mm SPG
46- ZSU-57/2 AAA
90- SA-2 Guideline
101- SA-9 Gaskin
111- BTR-152
151- SU-22
162- Saab Draken (I believe)
190- Mig 23 trainer I believe. Have never seenthe two seat version before. Very cool.
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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 08:02 PM UTC
First is a MiG-23 dual seat trainer, not sure what model.
the 8th picture is of Bridging equipment based on trucks, URALS?
9 - MiG-17? (hard to tell)
11 Mi-1
12 Mi-2 Hoplight
13 MiG-15/17/19?
14 Mi-8/17
15 Mi-24 Hind, probably -D model (Does not look like it has the "knuckles" of the Chem-recon version...)
Much of the other photos are of engineering equipment from many Warsaw pact countries and lots of missiles that are Air Defense, Aircraft launched, or vehicle based.
Page 4 has:
1 - PKM mounted on a vehicle
2 - Scud-A
3 - FROG (Maybe a -7?)
4 - SA-4 Ganef
5 - SA-6 Gainfull
7 - 2S1 122mm Artillery
8 - 2S3 152mm Artillery
9 - ZSU-23/4
10 - ZSU 57-2
11 - BMP-1 (or close derivative)
12 - T-54/55
Page 5 has pics of the T-54/55 and a nice series of a T-34/85 to page 8
Page 8 has some shots of a SA-2 and the truck rearming vehicle
page 9:
5 - SA-9 gaskin
6 - BRDM based ATGM mobile launcher, can't remember designation.
8 & 10 - BM-21 MLRS
Page 13, pic 7 is a SU-17/22 (not sure which variant)
Otherwise lots of shots of all kinds of things...jet engines, ordinance, quite a lot of very interesting hardware.
hope that helps
the 8th picture is of Bridging equipment based on trucks, URALS?
9 - MiG-17? (hard to tell)
11 Mi-1
12 Mi-2 Hoplight
13 MiG-15/17/19?
14 Mi-8/17
15 Mi-24 Hind, probably -D model (Does not look like it has the "knuckles" of the Chem-recon version...)
Much of the other photos are of engineering equipment from many Warsaw pact countries and lots of missiles that are Air Defense, Aircraft launched, or vehicle based.
Page 4 has:
1 - PKM mounted on a vehicle
2 - Scud-A
3 - FROG (Maybe a -7?)
4 - SA-4 Ganef
5 - SA-6 Gainfull
7 - 2S1 122mm Artillery
8 - 2S3 152mm Artillery
9 - ZSU-23/4
10 - ZSU 57-2
11 - BMP-1 (or close derivative)
12 - T-54/55
Page 5 has pics of the T-54/55 and a nice series of a T-34/85 to page 8
Page 8 has some shots of a SA-2 and the truck rearming vehicle
page 9:
5 - SA-9 gaskin
6 - BRDM based ATGM mobile launcher, can't remember designation.
8 & 10 - BM-21 MLRS
Page 13, pic 7 is a SU-17/22 (not sure which variant)
Otherwise lots of shots of all kinds of things...jet engines, ordinance, quite a lot of very interesting hardware.
hope that helps
Jacques
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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 08:05 PM UTC
Ha, Matt and I posted on top of each other!
Well, you can see that designations can now be correlated.
Well, you can see that designations can now be correlated.
Red4
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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 10:10 PM UTC
I stand corrected, I missed the Mi-2. Thought it was another pic of the Hare. My bad. "Q"
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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 11:04 PM UTC
Thanks for the answers, everyone. Most of the "usual" stuff is not a problem, but some of the vehicles are -well- strange... The problem with the exhibition is the lack of information displayed.
Jacques
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Posted: Friday, April 13, 2007 - 02:42 AM UTC
I agree that it is a great collection, but there is so much stuff, and the stuff you probably want ID'd is so esoteric, that unless you know all the production vehicles put out by all Warsaw pact countries, or are in the intelligence services of a country, you probably cannot name them. And then there is the fact that the collection covers a time range of 40-50 years...just one more complicating factor!
Think of it as a good refresher course for all of us Soviet vehicle nuts!
Think of it as a good refresher course for all of us Soviet vehicle nuts!