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driller
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Posted: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 03:32 AM UTC
hello every body.
does anyone have photos or draft of the new gunner sight on the top of the lav 25 turret (usmc version).
I hav seen it's different of the kit (goes up by rotation of the armor).
thanks in advance
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Posted: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 04:45 AM UTC
Have a look on
www.primeportal.net

Good luck!
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Posted: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 05:21 AM UTC

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hello every body.
does anyone have photos or draft of the new gunner sight on the top of the lav 25 turret (usmc version).
I hav seen it's different of the kit (goes up by rotation of the armor).
thanks in advance



The new sight is the ITSS or Improved Thermal Sight System. The DIM36 daysight was moved over to the commnders side of the vehicle...

Tanks
Andy
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Posted: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 06:38 AM UTC
Salut Driller

Take a look at Brandon Wright's pics on Webshots :
LAV photo album

HTH

Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 08:03 AM UTC

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Salut Driller

Take a look at Brandon Wright's pics on Webshots :
LAV photo album

HTH

Frenchy



Frenchy,
I've just looked at those pictures and the sights that are there are the old DIM36 with the ballistic cover. These sights are being replaced with the ITSS and the DIM36 (Sight in all of his pictures) is being moved over to the Commanders side. It is getting some additional upgrades as well. Once again the photos show the old system.

Tanks
Andy
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Posted: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 09:34 AM UTC

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Frenchy,
I've just looked at those pictures and the sights that are there are the old DIM36 with the ballistic cover. These sights are being replaced with the ITSS and the DIM36 (Sight in all of his pictures) is being moved over to the Commanders side. It is getting some additional upgrades as well. Once again the photos show the old system.

Tanks
Andy



OK Andy...But however that may be,the sights included in Trumpeter's kit are not accurate for a "recent" (= first stages of OIF) LAV are they ? Driller has not clearly specified the sight he was talking about. I didn't even know that there was a new device (ITSS) fitted to the LAV (that's the difference between those who are in the know and those who are not )Thanks for the update !

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Posted: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 09:44 AM UTC

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OK Andy...But however that may be,the sights included in Trumpeter's kit are not accurate for a "recent" (= first stages of OIF) LAV aren't they ? Driller has not clearly specified the sight he was talking about. I didn't even know that there was a new device (ITSS) fitted to the LAV (that's the difference between those who are in the know and those who are not )Thanks for the update !

Frenchy



Frenchy,
Sorry, I didn't realize that he was doing a comparison. I thought he was saying that this was the latest configuration. Yes, the sights housings that he is showing came as an improvement after OIF. I will dig through my photos and try and post some of the new configuration shots. I took a look at the existing Trumpeter Cover and is can be modified by adding some plastic stock to the front and adding some bolthead detail.

Tanks
Andy
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Posted: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 10:16 AM UTC

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Yes, the sights housings that he is showing came as an improvement after OIF.


Now I'm gitting a bit confused : are the sights visible on Brandon's pics OK for an early OIF LAV ? I've got some pics showing LAVs at the beginning of OIF and as far as I can tell, the sights (when they're visible) really look to be the same ones

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I will dig through my photos and try and post some of the new configuration shots


Good reference pics are always welcome !

Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 06:49 PM UTC
Is this any help???
I still have to add the cover on the gunner side.

Cheers Jason

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Posted: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 06:57 PM UTC
hello everybody.
first of all, i wish to thank you for your help and your precision.
my project is a lav from task force tarawa at the beginning of OIF.
so, i would make a slep (but not too much...) old tyres, new sight like on the photos from Frenchy and old generation exhaust (without the thermal cowl above).
just a thing, I've bought the echelon decals for the lav...
AMAZING !!!
and, once again, thanks a lot for your help.
for frenchy...
macarel, t'es une encyclopédie du char...
Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 07:29 PM UTC

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Is this any help???
I still have to add the cover on the gunner side.



Hi Jason

Very interesting. Are these sights the ones included in Mouse House Enterprise LAV set ?

Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 07:48 PM UTC
G'day Frenchy,

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Very interesting. Are these sights the ones included in Mouse House Enterprise LAV set ?


No these are mine. They will end up on a ASLAV 25 that may or may not end up as a kit.

Cheers Jason
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Posted: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 08:23 PM UTC

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No these are mine. They will end up on a ASLAV 25 that may or may not end up as a kit.

Cheers Jason



Keep on the good work Jason !

Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 09:32 PM UTC
Jason,
Great looking sights.

Frenchy, Driller,
There are differences between the ASLAV and the USMC when it comes to the sight head assembly. The Marine Corps version of the Gunner Sight Head and sight are different than the picture in Jason's build. The front of the gunners sight has the same cover (Ballistic) as the one on the commanders side. The little square area to the front right of each sight (as your looking at it) is the outside cover for the gyros, which are mounted to the turret roof on the commanders side only (for USMC). I work at the manufacturing facility and do wepons design and integration work.

Tanks
Andy
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Posted: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 12:14 AM UTC
Thanks for the additional information Andy !

Frenchy
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