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First armor, which to buy? Need advice.
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Posted: Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 10:55 PM UTC
Hi!

I haven't done an armor vehicle in my whole life. I am going to buy one from my local hobbyshop. I would like to have a WWII model. Do you think that 1/35 is best for the fist try? In that case, which one do you recomend?

As I said, I haven't painted / builded a armor. Do you know where I can find a feature/ homepage, where they tell one how to build an armor, if one is a newbie?

Edited BTW I haven't got an airbrush.

Thanks!
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Posted: Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 11:17 PM UTC
1/35 is really the best (IMO) scale to do armor. For starters, the majority of all kits are in 35th, and so are all the detail sets, conversion kits, and dio accessories. If you have no preferrence of what country you model, I would say a great starter for armor newbies would be Tamiya's Panzer II F/G.
My reasons;
1. Cheap. for around 12 USD you get a halfways good (as far as assembly) kit.

2. Ease of assembly/ See above.
When I first got back into modeling after about a 8 year hiatus, that was the kit. Because it is cheap, you don't have to worry about dropping 40 bucks in the can because you screwed it up. And, I feel alot more comfortable testing new techniques that I get on here on cheap kits, makes the expensive ones look much more expensive.

Hope this helps, good luck!
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Posted: Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 11:19 PM UTC
Aragorn,

I highly recommend you try the latest Tamiya products. The Big "T" has a wide variety of WWII AFVs and figures. Their kits are easy to build and the instructions are clear to follow.
By the way, this site is the best reference for model building, you can find many useful hints here as well.

Happy Modeling!
Steve, Sushi and Pig #6
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Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 12:10 AM UTC
I would definately have to agree that the way to go for a first armor kit would have to be from Tamiya. Big T's M-4 sherman kits are easy builds and great looking right out of the box. Another easy one is there M-3 Stuart. An excellent example of one put into a diorama can be found in the diorama talk forum. Its under "finally done-M3 river crossing" by code named SLODDER. Its really cool. You'll love it. :-)
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Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 12:21 AM UTC
Araogorn
These guys have hit the nail on the head. I would recommend a Tamiya kit as a starter. The two mentioned above are nice starts. They are inexpensive and easy to put together and build up to a nice looking tank.
As far as a beginners web site - I would recomment you get the kit then ask again. I have a number of links dedicated to specific tanks and to specific kits. I know others here have huge libraries of links too. I would do it that way vs. asking for links first, you may get bogged down with all the links.
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Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 03:19 AM UTC
Thanks for all replies!

I will look next month in my local hobbyshop for Tamaya tanks (Tight budget. )

Thanks again!
Sabot
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Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 03:26 AM UTC
Since you are already an experienced modeler, I will tell you not to discount other company's offerings. Academy's M-18 Hellcat and new M3 or M3A1 Stuart Honeys would be very good kits to cut your armor teeth on and are not a whole lot of money. Best thing is that both kits come with some interior detail to give you a chance to detail the insides.

Have fun, let us know if you need any help.
Delbert
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Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 03:37 AM UTC
For a First Kit go with Tamiya. most of their kits that I have done have been fairly easy to put together. I love the ease of thier construction. and 1/35 is the best scale for armor.

I did my first actual tank a while back and built Tamiya's Pz II kit. this is an older kit and is not all that accurate but it doesn't have that many parts and is cheap. costs about $9 in my local hobby shop and is prob the cheapest armor model you will find in 1/35 scale and doing it can give you a feel for building armor.

http://home.ceinetworks.com/~delbert3/PzII/PzII.html
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Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 05:00 AM UTC
If you just want to have a try and not a big budget available I can suggest one of the old Tamiya M3 or M5A1 Stuart, or an Italery M7 Priest...
Hawkeye
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Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 06:42 AM UTC
If you have no preference as to Allied or Axis for your first build. I would recommend you try Tamiya's "Late" model Jadgpanther. I have nearly finished mine and it is a very nice build,and i would think,quite easy for a first armour kit.

Later,
Hawkeye
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Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 10:23 AM UTC
I'm agreed on Big T,
I can suggest u some Russian tanks, like T34 series, very easy to complete but this time u may have some minor tracks problem.
For me the best ones are KV-I series (with no track problems)

If u want US tanks, my favourites are always the new Sherman M4A3 of Big T item nr: 35250
or Sherman M4A3 105mm item nr: 35251

HTH
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Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 10:23 AM UTC
I have to agree with the Jadgpanther. Great kit, easy build. You can get the brass engine cover set for those real cheap, kinda get a feel for adding PE without the expense or difficuklty. Ask many questions and you'll be amply rewarded.
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Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 10:50 AM UTC
Hey Aragorn. Try Wentzels in Stockholm. They have a good selection of models from cheap to expensive and pick up what you want there. I usually dont have a favorite but choose models I think would look cool. They have loads ot italeri kits from 130sek upwards, academy, DML, eastern block companies and loads of the older tamiya kits, M3 and M5 as mentioned above for less than 200sek. Maybe if you are at the open this weekend you might pick up some of the newer tamiya kits for 100sek cheaper than in the stores. I got a few bargins there last year.
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