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Armor/AFV: Allied - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Allied forces during World War II.
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Tamiya's Centaur finished *pics*
biffa
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Posted: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 05:05 PM UTC
Hi guys in an effort to clear the bench up a little for upcoming projects i had to concentrate on finishing a couple up that were in the late weathering stages, this was one of those builds that i wanted for the collection but got stalled on i may add some gear later on but for now im ready to call it done because i need the room, i tried to portray a vehicle that had been through the surf and had salt water stains and a sandy dusty look to it and im ok with the outcome and its looks good on the shelf.
Thanks for looking and feel free to comment in any way.

Ron.












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Posted: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 05:23 PM UTC
well done biffa, I especially like the built-up sand
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Posted: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 06:06 PM UTC
Hi Ron,

The turret markings look very realistic with the subtle wear on the top edges... did you actually chip away the decal/transfer, or use paint on top of it?

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Posted: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 06:09 PM UTC
Gorgeous weathering and surface effects. It simply looks like a tank made of metal that's been through an invasion. Be proud of that one.
jjumbo
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Posted: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 06:37 PM UTC
Looks great biffa,
I wish my Centaur had turned out as well.
I love that "dryed salt water" stain.
If so it looks realistic, how did you do it?
Keep up the good work.
Cheers

SGTJKJ
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Posted: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 06:53 PM UTC
Good job, Ron. Especially the weathering depicts just the kind of beach wear and tear you wanted to depict.

Thanks for sharing
Galwitz
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Posted: Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 12:10 AM UTC
Amazing paint job. It really looks like made of steel. Very well done.
jimb
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Posted: Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 12:14 AM UTC
The tank looks really nice. Quite realistic. Way beyond my skill. What are the purpose of the markings on the turret? Looks like some kind of compass. I don't get it.

Jim
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Posted: Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 12:53 AM UTC
James,
It's so that the infantry the tank is supporting can call off the bearing of anything giving them trouble (e.g. pillbox) to the crew.
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Posted: Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 12:56 AM UTC
Ron, this is a really impressive treatment of this model. I've made the Tamiya Cromwell, which is virtually the same tank & it was a very easy build, definitely one of Tammy's best. I understand that the turret transfers on the Centaur are a right SOB to get right however, congratulations!
Galwitz
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Posted: Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 12:58 AM UTC
The markings on the turret are degree marks. The idea was that when the tanks are on the beach, remote spotters equipped with binoculars could use those marks to align the turret/gun with the target even if direct line of fire is obscured by smoke or something...
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Posted: Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 02:31 AM UTC

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The markings on the turret are degree marks. The idea was that when the tanks are on the beach, remote spotters equipped with binoculars could use those marks to align the turret/gun with the target even if direct line of fire is obscured by smoke or something...



The Royal Marine Armoured Support Group's Centaurs were originally supposed to be engineless and were going to give fire support from their LST's.
That is until some bright boy figured that the LST's would make a sweet target just sitting on the beach.
They replaced the engines and then had to either train or borrow drivers from the Royal Armoured Corps.
The RSMAG were supposed to stay on the beaches but ended up ignoring their orders and headed inland into Normandy.
I seem to recall that the Centaurs were turned over to French units after the RMASG was ordered back to England.
Can anyone shed some light on this?
Cheers

jjumbo
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Posted: Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 05:29 AM UTC
Beautiful paint job; what colors did you use and how did you paint it? I was planning to do a training tank Centaur in that shade.
biffa
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Posted: Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 10:56 AM UTC
Thanks for the terrific response guys im really glad you liked it,

Stooga i painted on top of the decals to create the worn look.

JJ fo rthe salt stained look i applied a couple of very thin washes on top of the dullcote and let it bloom a little then did an all over light wash to tone them down.

Steve yup the turret decals take a little work but are worth the effort they really make this one interesting to me.

Tom the base colour was ModelMaster acrylic "leather" then i lightened it up a little with "Tan" for some center panel fading the weathering was done with many oil washes using combinations of "van dyke brown" "burnt sienna" "white" and "ivory black" starting with dark ones working my way to almost white ones and finally i used some light sand coloured pigments. The chipping was done with "van dyke brown" applied with a scouring pad along edges to show wear and "shadowed steel" was used for drybrushing to show metal.

Thanks again all .

Ron.
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Posted: Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 02:13 PM UTC
This one managed to slip by me somehow...very nice work Ron as usual.
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Posted: Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 10:09 PM UTC
Great job. Fantastic job on the weathering. I really like this one.

Thanks for sharing
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