Who doesn't love the mixed matched colors?
Patrick
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M1's on rail cars
PLMP110
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Posted: Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 04:10 PM UTC
Here are a few shots of some veterans on their way to AAD for a little tune up. I saw these on the tracks and laughed out loud when I saw a tank named the "Angry Beaver".
Who doesn't love the mixed matched colors?
Patrick
Who doesn't love the mixed matched colors?
Patrick
Burik
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Posted: Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 04:20 PM UTC
I'm sure the soldiers were being crude by using a double entendre, but I laughed too because both my golden retreivers are named after the cartoon characters - Angry Beavers - Norb and Daggett. 
Cool pics. Thanks.
Cool pics. Thanks.
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Posted: Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 10:25 PM UTC
Great pics ,and I think I was a little lean on my weathering.
Think when I do the Sep will lean more into chips and maybe a hint of dare I say it Green.
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Thanks for posting them.
Think when I do the Sep will lean more into chips and maybe a hint of dare I say it Green.
.Thanks for posting them.
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Posted: Friday, August 03, 2007 - 02:18 AM UTC
Jeff,
When you build your SEP, paint some of the parts that require frequent replacement in green - fenders, roadwheels, maybe a turret box... I always liked the look of sand painted tanks with a couple of green parts. Green or NATOflage tanks with sanp parts is also cool looking but need a bit more masking to pull off...
Those tanks are former 3ACR M1A2s that I would guess that were replaced by M1A2SEPs and are enroute to get tweaked up into SEPs. BTW, those railcars were specifically built for DOD to transport M1 series tanks.
John
When you build your SEP, paint some of the parts that require frequent replacement in green - fenders, roadwheels, maybe a turret box... I always liked the look of sand painted tanks with a couple of green parts. Green or NATOflage tanks with sanp parts is also cool looking but need a bit more masking to pull off...
Those tanks are former 3ACR M1A2s that I would guess that were replaced by M1A2SEPs and are enroute to get tweaked up into SEPs. BTW, those railcars were specifically built for DOD to transport M1 series tanks.
John
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Posted: Friday, August 03, 2007 - 04:43 AM UTC
Haven't they heard that the paint chipping thing is over done on AFVs? And the rust!
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Posted: Friday, August 03, 2007 - 12:15 PM UTC
What is that bracket assembly on the rear of the hull? Never seen that before. Also, how can you tell the difference between an A2 and an A2SEP?
John
John
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Posted: Friday, August 03, 2007 - 12:43 PM UTC
Thanks for posting your pictures.
Interesting reference for model rail roaders too.
Interesting reference for model rail roaders too.
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Posted: Friday, August 03, 2007 - 01:56 PM UTC
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What is that bracket assembly on the rear of the hull? Never seen that before. Also, how can you tell the difference between an A2 and an A2SEP?
John
The bracket is from a M88 and it is used to mount a heavy vehicle towbar on the tank .
Several differances seperate a M1A2 from a M1A2SEP...
The Turret contains several ID points. First, the VCSU AKA air conditioner that is mounted in the bustle rack of a SEP. The ducting for the VCSU is a second feature. the final one is the GPS antenna that is mounted behind the CITV sight.
On the hull, the left rear fuel tank was deleted for a APU or extra batteries. The APU has an exhaust just below the left tail light and a square fitting with four bolts just behind the fire extinguisher handle on the left side of the hull.
HTH
John
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Posted: Friday, August 03, 2007 - 02:49 PM UTC
I'm glad you guys liked the photos. Here are a couple more.
Things like this are always passing by, but I usually don't have my camera. Do all M1's have a number welded on the turret?
Patrick
Things like this are always passing by, but I usually don't have my camera. Do all M1's have a number welded on the turret?
Patrick
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 12:44 AM UTC
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Quoted TextWhat is that bracket assembly on the rear of the hull? Never seen that before. Also, how can you tell the difference between an A2 and an A2SEP?
John
The bracket is from a M88 and it is used to mount a heavy vehicle towbar on the tank .
Several differances seperate a M1A2 from a M1A2SEP...
The Turret contains several ID points. First, the VCSU AKA air conditioner that is mounted in the bustle rack of a SEP. The ducting for the VCSU is a second feature. the final one is the GPS antenna that is mounted behind the CITV sight.
On the hull, the left rear fuel tank was deleted for a APU or extra batteries. The APU has an exhaust just below the left tail light and a square fitting with four bolts just behind the fire extinguisher handle on the left side of the hull.
HTH
John
I've never seen that bracket before. Is that going to be a fleet-wide modification or was it restricted to a few tanks in that particular unit? Doesn't look to hard to scratchbuild.
I've just picked up the Dragon A2SEP kit and I really like the look of the tanks in those pix. Like the poster above said, the NATO green parts really offset the CARC sand.
Do you know if there are any other pix online of the tanks from this unit?
Thanks again for the info,
John
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 01:23 AM UTC
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Jeff,
When you build your SEP, paint some of the parts that require frequent replacement in green - fenders, roadwheels, maybe a turret box... I always liked the look of sand painted tanks with a couple of green parts. Green or NATOflage tanks with sanp parts is also cool looking but need a bit more masking to pull off...
Those tanks are former 3ACR M1A2s that I would guess that were replaced by M1A2SEPs and are enroute to get tweaked up into SEPs. BTW, those railcars were specifically built for DOD to transport M1 series tanks.
John
Will do I guess Nato green and not OD green.
Tracks sure rust fast.
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 01:28 AM UTC
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Do all M1's have a number welded on the turret?
Patrick
Think that is a U for Uranium armor.
But could be wrong.
If U then yes they have,Tankers will answer we hope.
Miloslav did it on track link { Angry Beaver}
here
http://www.track-link.net/gallery/5261
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 02:25 AM UTC
Jeff,
The "U" in the turret number does mean that the tank has the Depleted Uranium (DU) armor... Also I would use either the NATO Green for a brand new part or JGSDF Dk Green (XF-73) for a faded part. Either way, it breaks up the monotony of a all sand paint job
John,
The towbar brackets are a unit modification as far as I know... The positioning of the brackets works for the M1A2 and possibly the M1A2 SEP with the Hawker batteries. I am not sure if a SEP equipped with the Under Armor Aux Power Unit would be able to have the towbar mounted in that same location. Jim Patrick, where are you???
John
The "U" in the turret number does mean that the tank has the Depleted Uranium (DU) armor... Also I would use either the NATO Green for a brand new part or JGSDF Dk Green (XF-73) for a faded part. Either way, it breaks up the monotony of a all sand paint job
John,
The towbar brackets are a unit modification as far as I know... The positioning of the brackets works for the M1A2 and possibly the M1A2 SEP with the Hawker batteries. I am not sure if a SEP equipped with the Under Armor Aux Power Unit would be able to have the towbar mounted in that same location. Jim Patrick, where are you???
John
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 03:40 AM UTC
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Jeff,
The "U" in the turret number does mean that the tank has the Depleted Uranium (DU) armor... Also I would use either the NATO Green for a brand new part or JGSDF Dk Green (XF-73) for a faded part. Either way, it breaks up the monotony of a all sand paint job
John,
The towbar brackets are a unit modification as far as I know... The positioning of the brackets works for the M1A2 and possibly the M1A2 SEP with the Hawker batteries. I am not sure if a SEP equipped with the Under Armor Aux Power Unit would be able to have the towbar mounted in that same location. Jim Patrick, where are you???
John
So why were these parts not painted in Sand color John?
Now don't tell to break up the sand scheme.
Or was it
PLMP110
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 08:23 AM UTC
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Patrick, where are you???
I'm in Alabama. I work about 15 miles from Anniston Army Depot. It is a pretty common sight to see armor go by on rail and flatbeds here. The only problem is I usually don't have a camera with me. I'm gonna try to do better about that since I do see some pretty cool stuff coming and going.
Patrick
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 08:23 AM UTC
I would expext because the parts are directly out of the supply system and were not repainted in the sand colour.
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 09:28 AM UTC
Keep in mind about the rust and the weathering. These tanks probably sat around in a collection point for a while prior to being loaded up onto rail cars for a trip to the depot. Ones still in service would not be allowed by the crew to show that much rust, if any. Oh the name of my tank was the bearded clam if you like sneaky names. Great pix. I used to live in Anniston and my dad as a retired MD worked out there for a while as one of the on-site physicians. I wish I had pushed the point to work out there if nothing more than just to drive the tanks around
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