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Armor/AFV: Allied - WWII
Armor and ground forces of the Allied forces during World War II.
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Updating Tamiya's Dingo Scout Car - No AM!
Mad_Dan_Eccles
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Posted: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 02:07 PM UTC

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Looks great, I'll have to look for photos of armed Dingos. I haven't seen the anti-tank rifle or the anti-aircraft bren on one before.

Were brens also used in the front panel where you have the anti-tank rifle?



Not sure about the Boys but there are ealry photos of Dingos with a Bren in the slot. The stowage diagrams for the MkII Dingo show a Lakeman mount for the Bren.

Another option, which is AFAIK widely used only 11th Hussars was a pair of Vickers "K" guns, There would be a rack containing 8-10 spare magazines on the outside of the car on the drivers side at the top of the side plates.
IIth Hussars Dingo

HTH

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Posted: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 09:18 PM UTC

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Not sure about the Boys but there are ealry photos of Dingos with a Bren in the slot. The stowage diagrams for the MkII Dingo show a Lakeman mount for the Bren.

Another option, which is AFAIK widely used only 11th Hussars was a pair of Vickers "K" guns, There would be a rack containing 8-10 spare magazines on the outside of the car on the drivers side at the top of the side plates.
IIth Hussars Dingo

HTH

Aidrian



Hi Adrian, thanks for the pic, that would make an interesting build. Also noticed the additional stowage boxe on the rear wheel arch.

Will get some more pics up soon hopefully as the interior is finished as are the figures. Am away all of next week (in Dublin any good hobby shops there?) so it may be a while before I get the paint on this one.

James
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Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 01:19 PM UTC

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Also noticed the additional stowage boxe on the rear wheel arch.



James

Thaks for sharing the build - it's rather helped with a slight case of modellers block.

As far as the 11th's Dingo is concerned extra stowage seems to be a Cherrypicker speciality - all those years in the desert must have made them very canny travellers indeed. They also seemed to have a particluar knack for liberating wine cellars

Have fun in Dublin.
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Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 08:51 PM UTC
James

Just stumbled on this build - very nice! Congrats so far, a really excellent build.

If you're still planning on setting your dio in NWE 1944 then I suggest you ditch the .55 AT rifle - it was obsolete in 1939 and mightly disliked by those who had to use it! The only theatres you could really include it in are Pre-war, France 1940, the Home Front and the Western desert. Of course having said that it is entirely possible that an individual unit may have kept one but given that it was always a poor AT rifle this is doubtful. But if you like it - why not?

Anyway, keep it coming.

Cheers

Karol

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Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 08:56 PM UTC
James

A short addendum.

AA mounts on these would have been either Vickers Ks, Bren or (ultimately) Browning M1919s. Stick with the Bren mount - it's a nice touch.

Cheers

Karol

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Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 09:34 PM UTC

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James

Thaks for sharing the build - it's rather helped with a slight case of modellers block.

As far as the 11th's Dingo is concerned extra stowage seems to be a Cherrypicker speciality - all those years in the desert must have made them very canny travellers indeed. They also seemed to have a particluar knack for liberating wine cellars

Have fun in Dublin.



Cheers Aidrian, glad to be of help!
I've had a bit of modellers block regarding what I want to build next, have been through about 10 ideas but think i've finally settled on one now!

If I had to liberate anything, id say a wine cellar would be pretty high on my list! (possibly behind a brewery, im not sure).

Thanks,

James
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Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 10:27 PM UTC

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James

Just stumbled on this build - very nice! Congrats so far, a really excellent build.

If you're still planning on setting your dio in NWE 1944 then I suggest you ditch the .55 AT rifle - it was obsolete in 1939 and mightly disliked by those who had to use it! The only theatres you could really include it in are Pre-war, France 1940, the Home Front and the Western desert. Of course having said that it is entirely possible that an individual unit may have kept one but given that it was always a poor AT rifle this is doubtful. But if you like it - why not?

Anyway, keep it coming.

Cheers

Karol




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James

A short addendum.

AA mounts on these would have been either Vickers Ks, Bren or (ultimately) Browning M1919s. Stick with the Bren mount - it's a nice touch.

Cheers

Karol



Thanks for the kind words Karol, glad you like it so far.

I understand my choice of armament has been somewhat contraversial, but thanks for backing me up with the Bren on the AA mount.
As for the boys AT gun, as you say, it was well outdated by this stage in the war, but my logic for it is that, they would know almost every other AFV they would meet would be better armed than them and the boys would still be effective against some softskin and APC's. Also this early on in the Normandy campaign they may not have realised it's ineffectiveness yet, so the thought of a bit more firepower would be a welcome one!

Cheers,

James
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Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 10:45 PM UTC
Update time!

Base coat of SCC15 is now on, unfortunately you probably won't see this until my return from Dublin.
Here are some pics of the figures in the meantime.
They are a combination of Masterbox and Tamiya parts from various sets.
They have been sprayed with Tamiya acrylics as a abse coat and painted with humbrol enamels. Transfers for the KSLI (kings shropshire light infantry) and 3rd infantry division are from the airfix set. Have still got to dull down some of the gloss on these transfer areas.

Here's the radio operator/gunner. Wires for the radio are made from 5 amp fuse wire.








And the officer figure:





All comments welcome!

Cheers,

James
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Posted: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 06:09 AM UTC
Hello James,

You are making some very nice details on the dingo, but I think you are making a mistake with the lakeman gun mount. If you go the next link you can find some good pictures of the lakeman in a dingo.

http://www.mindspring.com/~rmgill/britkit/vehicles/dingo.mod/pages/dingoBrenLakeman.1.o.htm

As I'am going a step back, rebuilding the mark 2 into a mark 1a there are some more details that can be intresting for your model.

The fenderswere made of steel plate, and the sides were in a 90 degree angle. Make the fenders out of te box thinner with a file and glue a spreu on it, see photo of the drawing on the front of the tamiya box.
The centres on the rims are much higher as on the wheels of the model.
On the fenders are lifting hooks, but these were made of thin plate, not enough to hold a 3 ton vehicle. As you look on the web fir photo's you can see there are reinforcement strips on both side of the springs from the bottom of the vehicle to the fenden. A little job in modelling, but it looks much better.
Under the radio there should be a (large) battery, proberly for the radio.
The seat for the gunner/radio operator was build on a steel plate that stands a little above floor, there is a good picture from above on the side I mentioned above.
In the stowage shedule there is a rifle in a horizontal rack above the rearside vision port.

But even if don't do anything with this your model stil looks great.

Greatings from Holland

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Posted: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 08:24 PM UTC

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Hello James,

You are making some very nice details on the dingo, but I think you are making a mistake with the lakeman gun mount. If you go the next link you can find some good pictures of the lakeman in a dingo.

http://www.mindspring.com/~rmgill/britkit/vehicles/dingo.mod/pages/dingoBrenLakeman.1.o.htm

As I'am going a step back, rebuilding the mark 2 into a mark 1a there are some more details that can be intresting for your model.

The fenderswere made of steel plate, and the sides were in a 90 degree angle. Make the fenders out of te box thinner with a file and glue a spreu on it, see photo of the drawing on the front of the tamiya box.
The centres on the rims are much higher as on the wheels of the model.
On the fenders are lifting hooks, but these were made of thin plate, not enough to hold a 3 ton vehicle. As you look on the web fir photo's you can see there are reinforcement strips on both side of the springs from the bottom of the vehicle to the fenden. A little job in modelling, but it looks much better.
Under the radio there should be a (large) battery, proberly for the radio.
The seat for the gunner/radio operator was build on a steel plate that stands a little above floor, there is a good picture from above on the side I mentioned above.
In the stowage shedule there is a rifle in a horizontal rack above the rearside vision port.

But even if don't do anything with this your model stil looks great.

Greatings from Holland




Hi Jeroen,

Thanks for all the tips, however, I'm afraid you're a bit too late as I managed to complete the little vingette on the weekend! Thanks anyway as there are some good pointers in there, and your idea to back-date to a Mk.1 sounds interesting. Will you be giving it the full 4 wheel steering that was present on the earlier models?

I'll be getting some photos of my finished peice and getting them up on the site soon, so keep an eye out.

Good luck with your build.

James
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