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cheyenne
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Posted: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 09:58 AM UTC
Well I figured how I wanted to do the roof.
The roof is a sub-assembly as is other parts of the build for painting purposes.
I also found some soft plastic trays with rectangular slots in them. Just coat them with a film of Vaseline, fill will joint compound - spackle, let the sun do its thing - 3 sizes of bricks !!!! The chimneys show the results. There will be two more chimneys on the other side of the roof.
The overhang above the open air imbibing establishmet will be a terra cotta type roofing.
Thanks for looking - Cheyenne




























slodder
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Posted: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 02:00 PM UTC
The roof is going to be nice. The method of cutting down a presized strip is simple and effective.

If you don't want to do a quick brick making feature tell me what product did you found that brick pattern in ? - I may have to go buy it and do a quick feature. Again - simple and effective.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 02:35 PM UTC
Is this in 1/35 scale? Must be pretty darn big. Any idea as to how many figures you will use? Any vehicles? Very impressed with the quality of the work.
roudeleiw
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Posted: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 05:48 PM UTC
Hi Glenn,

Now that is really starting to take shape!

I really love the chimney. Pack a few in a parcel , i need some soon :-)
From your text i did not get how you did them. Can you explain a bit more please.
I have another thing. The stripes of wood, rounded at the end, going from the roof to the terrasse on the sides of the house( i have no english word for these) , do you have a reference for that? The look too wide for my taste.
You probably used some 1cm stripes (35 cm in real) , what certainly can be the size of a plank, but ( i had the same problem once with a barn) , i find it visually more appealing to do more planks at a lesser wide, some 6-7 mm for example.
But if you have this on a reference picture, i will forgive you this time :-)

Cheers
Claude




Simon
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Posted: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 08:13 PM UTC
I'm amazed of your work. I really like it.

Good luck with it

Simon
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Posted: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 10:42 PM UTC
Claude
If I read it correctly, I envision that he did something similar to this

Bricks

Only in Figure/Step One he found a plastic 'blister pack' or packaging material that was pre-formed with the 'pour grooves'
cheyenne
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Posted: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 10:56 PM UTC
Thanks guys.
Scott, the plastic pieces are from work and are preformed covers for wire splices. I'll see how many I can get and after work tonight show everyone the deal.
Thanks Matthew, yes it's 1/35th and yes it's large, I'll take some pics. with figs. for size reference. This build is for a fellow modeler [ Parks20 ] and I don't know what he's going to do to populate the build.
Claude, thanks man, I'll make you as many chimneys as you want, p.m. me about it.
Also I thought about the size of the rounded vertical planks, and figured them [ scale wise ] to be about 20 inches, 4 inches shy of two feet, and didn't think it would be too much of a problem. Maybe with some figs. in for reference it will look better.
Simon, thanks man, still more to do but close to the end.
Thanks - Cheyenne
jba
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Posted: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:15 PM UTC
Glenn, You and Claude should be put in a room the size of an underground station and be left on your modelling for a full year and you would be able to fill the space
being unable to do things more than 10' long, I have a huge respect for your kind of work -and really, this Biergarten is growing more interesting by the minute! nice roof yes!
cheyenne
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Posted: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 12:44 PM UTC
Jean, I love ya man, the only thing Claude and I would need, placed in a warehouse the size of a football field, would be you to join us !!!!!!
Could we change that warehouse to a wine cellar the size of a football field .... stocked of course !!!! Of course we would have to give holiday time to our familys ............ between European and American holidays.... the familys should see us a bit !!!!!

Scott here's the plastic bits. As you can see there's a little bit of slice and dice to get the bottom piece for the bricks. Oh and in pic. # two you can see that Wally here cut the wrong side off and came up with half a mold !!!!!!!!!!!! Actually it became a blessing in disguise, because when I slopped in the drywall mud I came up with some very interesting " partial pieces " that came in handy.





Cut the ends off, hacksaw the side uprights and use the bottom piece, 46 bricks per pour. Three sizes, I'll see how many of these I can find at work, and if anyone want some ... cool.





I like Keith's method also and will be trying that this weekend.............N.F.L. opening day permitted.

Claude in retrospect, yes they look a tad large. How about these pics. with vertical stringers, to visually make them more acceptable ? I can also add small ones to break up the size of the scalloped bottoms.





Matthew... some size ref. pics. The figs. are Dragon, the duce Tamiya, with the droopy Verlinden 50 cal barrel and all, l.o.l.










roudeleiw
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Posted: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 07:21 PM UTC
Glenn,

just a short notice as i am in a hurry . Hold on and i will make some research for reference pics on the net. Speaking german makes the research perhpas easier. Maybe we can find a ref to fit it in.
And i am certainly intrested in one (some) of your moulds. See you later
Claude
roudeleiw
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Posted: Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 05:38 AM UTC
Hi Glenn,

I did not find any reference pic at all. Probably the sides of the houses are not so fotogen.
I do not think that your proposed solution makes them better. Different sizes are not good either i believe, because this is a decoratice element and equal sized planks definitely looks better.
So , sorry , i think it would be better do redo them with a max wide of some 0,22 inch in 1/35 (scale.exe works like a charm ).

Cheers
Claude
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Posted: Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 06:23 AM UTC
Wow...that is quite some impressive building going on in your hobby corner !!

It looks like a replica of the beergarten I often visited in Vogelsang (former SS trainingcamp in the German Eifell) when I was at excercise over there.

I'm impressed dude !!
cheyenne
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Posted: Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 10:32 AM UTC
Claude, unfortunately the planks are written in stone...... they are a structural part of the build. The only thing I can do is cammo them with the vertical bits on the seams. I spoke to Brian and he's happy with the way it looks, so on to the finish.
Claude I can send you the plastic tray bits as I've found quite a few at work, you just have to work them to the bottom pieces you will need.
Also if you want me to lumber up a few chimneys let me know and by all means give me the angle 45 degrees, 30 etc.

Danny, thanks man, long time no see, how are you doing ?
I still have a patio/terrace thingie to do under the area where the supports for the front deck is, and a stairway down to the level of the tunnel.
Cheyenne
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