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blouie
Joined: September 18, 2005
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Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 06:02 AM UTC
Here are some pics of a diorama that I have been trying to find the time to build for about two years. All input is welcome. Cheers
Branden
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Kuno-Von-Dodenburg
Joined: February 20, 2007
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Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 07:52 AM UTC
Can't really see much of the Pz IV to comment, but the Tiger looks great.
I also like the two levels.
I also like the two levels.
blouie
Joined: September 18, 2005
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Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 12:51 PM UTC
Thanks!
Here are some pics of the Tiger I used:
And the Panzer IV
Cheers
Here are some pics of the Tiger I used:
And the Panzer IV
Cheers
sparky
Joined: December 26, 2004
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Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 01:28 PM UTC
WOW!
Thats the best weathering I've seen in a while.
Can you share your method?
Excellent ground work also...both tanks really look like they got there..
Thats the best weathering I've seen in a while.
Can you share your method?
Excellent ground work also...both tanks really look like they got there..
HONEYCUT
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Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 08:05 PM UTC
I agree Branden
Initially I thought "This bloke has a good grasp of groundwork", but the later photos of your tanks are great too...
I really like the effect of the chopped ground behind the panzers tracks. I almost didn't notice the unpainted section of the base; it looks a quite specific set up you have here. Is it of anywhere in particular? Are you adding water to the drainage ditch?
Look forward to more progress pics
Cheers
Brad
Initially I thought "This bloke has a good grasp of groundwork", but the later photos of your tanks are great too...
I really like the effect of the chopped ground behind the panzers tracks. I almost didn't notice the unpainted section of the base; it looks a quite specific set up you have here. Is it of anywhere in particular? Are you adding water to the drainage ditch?
Look forward to more progress pics
Cheers
Brad
blouie
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Posted: Monday, September 17, 2007 - 04:33 AM UTC
Thanks a lot for the compliments, I am still a little rusty after a year and half of not touching an airbrush (when the tanks were built). Progress on the dio has been pretty good. I will post more pics when I get a chance this evening.
As for weathering, it was a lot of experimenting, but mostly it was about a lot of washes a lot of pastel work and doing a little at a time. Armorama helped a lot. If you have any questions about specific areas on either tank, I'd be happy to tell you how I came about it.
As for the base, it is not a specific area, hell, I am not even sure what front it is on. I went with a field, figuring it could be anywhere. I will be adding water to the drainage ditch, though I am not sure how (if you have any suggestions, please let me know).
Again thanks for the input and cheers
Branden
As for weathering, it was a lot of experimenting, but mostly it was about a lot of washes a lot of pastel work and doing a little at a time. Armorama helped a lot. If you have any questions about specific areas on either tank, I'd be happy to tell you how I came about it.
As for the base, it is not a specific area, hell, I am not even sure what front it is on. I went with a field, figuring it could be anywhere. I will be adding water to the drainage ditch, though I am not sure how (if you have any suggestions, please let me know).
Again thanks for the input and cheers
Branden
james84
Joined: January 28, 2006
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Posted: Monday, September 17, 2007 - 04:48 AM UTC
Nice Tiger and nice Zimmerit!
How did you do it (I'm bound to built a Tiger I late as well)?
How did you do it (I'm bound to built a Tiger I late as well)?
blouie
Joined: September 18, 2005
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Posted: Monday, September 17, 2007 - 10:26 AM UTC
Here are some updates. I added a fence b/c I changed the story of the scene to compensate for some poor figure building (I hate figures). The fence needs to be painted still and I need to makes some tarps and some clothes to hang on the fence. Anyone know the color of standard issue Wermacht socks and skivies?
Cheers
Branden
Cheers
Branden
blouie
Joined: September 18, 2005
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Posted: Monday, September 17, 2007 - 10:33 AM UTC
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Nice Tiger and nice Zimmerit!
How did you do it (I'm bound to built a Tiger I late as well)?
Its the atak am kit. Its really great, I highly recommend it.
HONEYCUT
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Posted: Monday, September 17, 2007 - 12:00 PM UTC
Hey Branden there are a few articles on Armorama about water. Personally I use clear resin (used for encasing insects, making paperweights etc.) which is 2 parts, resin and catalyst, and was bought from the hardware. I have used Woodland scenics water, which probably works out more expensive, but is probably a little more user friendly. For a ditch like yours, the main objective would be to maybe darken the centre of the ditch, maybe a dark green/brown, then add some longer reeds/weeds to the edges. The pour should be the full length at once in a thin layer in the centre, taking great care to stay at 1/8" depth. Let this cure overnight and then pour another layer taking great care to spread the top evenly whilst in it's most liquid state (ie. immmediately!) so it doesn't develop a 'domed' appearance. Most of all, trial and error through a practice run 
I like the additional fence line you have mate
Cheers
Brad
I like the additional fence line you have mateCheers
Brad
blouie
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Posted: Monday, September 17, 2007 - 12:47 PM UTC
Hey thanks for the tips on water. I was thinking that the ditch was recently dug, therefore there is no aquatic plant life and the water would be just on the wet side of mud. Do you have any experience with that sort of water? I was thinking of using future just to give the base of the ditch a shine. Does that seem reasonable? I was going to experiment with a few different techniques to see what I like and I will add the two part resin to the mix (no pun intended). Can you add color to that resin?
Thanks for the comment on the fence, I think it adds to the composition of the whole scene. I look forward to hanging the laundry on it.
Cheers
Branden
Thanks for the comment on the fence, I think it adds to the composition of the whole scene. I look forward to hanging the laundry on it.
Cheers
Branden
tjkelly
Joined: May 04, 2007
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Posted: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 12:07 PM UTC
Branden -
Echo what has been posted to date...awesome job! Very nice build of both tanks, and the look behind the tank tracks is great! Looks like it just plowed on through, vice being "sat" on top of the grass/soggy ground. Nice job!
Looking forward to the updates!
Cheers!
Tim
Echo what has been posted to date...awesome job! Very nice build of both tanks, and the look behind the tank tracks is great! Looks like it just plowed on through, vice being "sat" on top of the grass/soggy ground. Nice job!
Looking forward to the updates!
Cheers!
Tim
slodder
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Posted: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 12:21 PM UTC
Lookin' good. Water is easy, but test it first because you can't un-pour water.
I've covered it in Gotcha Covered
also this feature covers the product Pouring resin
There are many other ways of doing water too, so look around ask for other options.
I've covered it in Gotcha Covered
also this feature covers the product Pouring resin
There are many other ways of doing water too, so look around ask for other options.
HONEYCUT
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Posted: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 12:22 PM UTC
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Hey thanks for the tips on water. I was thinking that the ditch was recently dug, therefore there is no aquatic plant life and the water would be just on the wet side of mud. Do you have any experience with that sort of water? I was thinking of using future just to give the base of the ditch a shine. Does that seem reasonable?
Branden I have done something similar using nothing more than a tin or two of clear gloss, applied in layers it builds up reasonably for anything that doesn't need to represent depth...
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I was going to experiment with a few different techniques to see what I like and I will add the two part resin to the mix (no pun intended). Can you add color to that resin?
Certainly. I'd do it all in practice mode, and add less than you'd think necessary. Darker for the first pour, and lighter for the higher layers...
JeepLC
Joined: June 20, 2007
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Posted: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 12:47 PM UTC
I use the scenic water gel stuff; 'Ready Water'? Anyway, I mix it with brown acrylic paint and swirl in dark spots. It works great. If you go into my photos an example is in there. It can be spread REALLY thin so I like it.
-Mike
-Mike
blouie
Joined: September 18, 2005
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Posted: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 11:26 PM UTC
Thanks for all the tips on water. Scott, those articles were very helpful. The more I look at the ditch, though, the more I think that I may not need water. Any thoughts or suggestions? Again the idea is that it was recently dug, so I don't know if standing water would be necessary.
I am working on a wash bucket which will need water, so I will get a chance to try all of your techniques, even if not in the ditch, and some clothes to hang on the fence. I have also incorporated the mud color onto the Tiger and will get more pics up soon.
Does anyone have a clue what color standard issue Wermacht socks and skivies were?
Keep the comments and suggestions coming
Cheers
Branden
I am working on a wash bucket which will need water, so I will get a chance to try all of your techniques, even if not in the ditch, and some clothes to hang on the fence. I have also incorporated the mud color onto the Tiger and will get more pics up soon.
Does anyone have a clue what color standard issue Wermacht socks and skivies were?
Keep the comments and suggestions coming
Cheers
Branden
blouie
Joined: September 18, 2005
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 07:05 AM UTC
So I have kind of finalized the story behind this little scene, so now I need some advice on a few scratch build pieces I want to do. The basic scene will be the crew of the Panzer washing some laundry while off the front when they see their first Tiger roll by which stops them in there tracks as they stare up in awe.
I plan on scratch building mugs/cups or mess kits (for breakfast) or is it more likely that a tank crew might actually just scrounge from houses . (I was even thinking of maybe a table cloth on a drum), a German stove and maybe a box of apples or some sort of fruit. I gave it a go with Squadron Green putty, but that didn't work. Is there a specific technique with this stuff or should I try something else (miliput?) and if so, where might I find it. My LHS doesn't carry much for plastic modelling.
Cheers
Branden
I plan on scratch building mugs/cups or mess kits (for breakfast) or is it more likely that a tank crew might actually just scrounge from houses . (I was even thinking of maybe a table cloth on a drum), a German stove and maybe a box of apples or some sort of fruit. I gave it a go with Squadron Green putty, but that didn't work. Is there a specific technique with this stuff or should I try something else (miliput?) and if so, where might I find it. My LHS doesn't carry much for plastic modelling.
Cheers
Branden
slodder
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 11:05 AM UTC
As far as water in a bucket - be careful with two part resin. The heat could melt a plastic bucket. If you scratch one, use a soda can or foil.
For small quantities of water you could use two part epoxy glue, just get the kind that dries clear.
I think that the soldiers would have done a bit of scrounging to get whatever creature comforts they could find and they would have some other assigned gear. It would be a nice combination to blend both.
For making fruit and things I use sculpy - bakable clay (see Gotcha Covered again). Its easy to use, cheap and can be found at Walmart, AC Moore, Michaels and others I'm sure.
Don't know if they'd do this, but you could rotate the turret and run a cloths line from the muzzle break to the skirt rack and hang some cloths on it.
For small quantities of water you could use two part epoxy glue, just get the kind that dries clear.
I think that the soldiers would have done a bit of scrounging to get whatever creature comforts they could find and they would have some other assigned gear. It would be a nice combination to blend both.
For making fruit and things I use sculpy - bakable clay (see Gotcha Covered again). Its easy to use, cheap and can be found at Walmart, AC Moore, Michaels and others I'm sure.
Don't know if they'd do this, but you could rotate the turret and run a cloths line from the muzzle break to the skirt rack and hang some cloths on it.
blouie
Joined: September 18, 2005
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 12:22 PM UTC
Slodder, I like the idea of a clothes line, and thanks for the warning about the resin I actually thought of using fiberglass resin from my boat, but it is a heat issue, though I could work up a cool mix.
I plan on hanging some tarps, maybe they will be on a clothes line like you suggest. I was actually thinking of hanging an awning from the skirt rail.
Here some pics of some clothes hanging from a section of the fence.
Cheers
Branden
I plan on hanging some tarps, maybe they will be on a clothes line like you suggest. I was actually thinking of hanging an awning from the skirt rail.
Here some pics of some clothes hanging from a section of the fence.
Cheers
Branden
slodder
Joined: February 22, 2002
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 12:32 PM UTC
The drapping is really nice, I would like to see a bit more structure in the cloth to make them look more like shirts or pants or a mix of things.
blouie
Joined: September 18, 2005
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 01:27 PM UTC
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The drapping is really nice, I would like to see a bit more structure in the cloth to make them look more like shirts or pants or a mix of things.
Hey thanks, yeah after looking at the pictures, I didn't like the formless "things" hanging, so here are some pics with some form
Cheers
Branden
blouie
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 01:54 PM UTC
And a bucket
Cheers
Branden
Cheers
Branden
slodder
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 02:13 PM UTC
Much better! I like it a lot more. The bucket looks good too. 
SGTJKJ
#041
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 06:48 PM UTC
Looks great - I like the different levels of the diorama and the way that the Pz. IV and Tiger sits well in the terrain.
One thing to consider is to make the grass field even more "fussy" and worn and in different lengths.
Looking forward to see more - thanks for sharing
One thing to consider is to make the grass field even more "fussy" and worn and in different lengths.
Looking forward to see more - thanks for sharing
blouie
Joined: September 18, 2005
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Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 05:23 AM UTC
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Looks great - I like the different levels of the diorama and the way that the Pz. IV and Tiger sits well in the terrain.
One thing to consider is to make the grass field even more "fussy" and worn and in different lengths.
Looking forward to see more - thanks for sharing
I was thinking of putting tall clumps using twine. Now I am thinkg about doing taller grass all around, any suggestions on how to go about this?
Cheers
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