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M113 with a 25mm Turret (aka OSV)
Sabot
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Posted: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 01:41 AM UTC
Jacques and GreyHunter (Marcel) were having a discussion on whether this vehicle exists. It does, and is currently in use with the US Army's 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment, the National Training Center's Opposing Force at Fort Irwin, California. Here is the information I posted:
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I believe you guys are talking about the OSV or OPFOR Surrogate Vehicle. This is an M113 with a Bradley turret (less TOW launcher) and vizmods (visual modifications) done to make the vehicle appear similar to a BMP-2. Here are some links to the vehicle:
http://www.irwin.army.mil/11acr/osv.htm
http://www.irwin.army.mil/11ACR/211/photographs.htm
http://call.leavenworth.army.mil/products/trngqtr/tq3-99/osv.htm And a photo of one:
The OPFOR at NTC has been using these things for years.

Note: This post was moved from the M1/Sgt. York conversion thread.
SS-74
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Joined: May 13, 2002
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Posted: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 03:11 AM UTC
you meant this is not the one you talking about? This one looked so cool. comes to modern US armor stuff, I definitely place my bet on Sabot, he is like a walking encyclopedia and was never wrong....
salt6
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Posted: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 03:32 AM UTC
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Whiskey
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Posted: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 10:43 AM UTC
I thought to myself when I looked at it "ya know it looks like Russian" and sure enough I read it is supposed to look like a BMP.
Jacques
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Posted: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 11:19 AM UTC
Thanks Salt6, the lower of the two vehicles is the one I was speaking of. It is called the M115A1 by some Twilight 2000 people, but should be a M115A2, as the M115A1 was postulated to be the M113 FAV with the Saladin turret replaced by a LAV-25 turret. I am not sure if either vehicle has ever been seen in more than proto-type configs.

Nice photo Sabot, I have seen pics of alot of the NTS stuff, pretty cool. I knew one of the guys who helped build the SA-8 Gecko vehicles they have out there...I believe they were built on fire truck chassis'?
ptruhe
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Posted: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 04:12 AM UTC
I've got an issue of JoMO that has some good top and turret pictures of the OSV. Now all I need is a Bradley turret.

Paul
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