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help with snow
panzerboy1944
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Posted: Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 03:25 PM UTC
Hi
what is the best thing to dupilacte snow that wont turn yellow and look like crap any and all suggestions are welcome
Thanks panzerboy
f1matt
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Posted: Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 04:04 PM UTC
I have had success with baking powder. It's tricky but effective and cheap.

Over a layer of Celluclay apply a thin layer of white glue. Over that, sift on some powder. To keep it in place very lightly spray on some hairspray. Keep spraying until it is completely absorbed. I have used this technique a couple of times and it has yet to yellow with age. So far any way. The trick is too practice a little and play with the technique first.

Well that's what I have used.
Tarok
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Posted: Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 07:10 PM UTC
The techniques HF's resident groundwork guru, Costas Rodopoulos, employs for figure vignettes can easily be used for dioramas as well.

Read his snow SBS here: Basemaking for Beginners: Snow

HTH

Rudi
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Posted: Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 10:07 PM UTC
I used Woodland Scenics "Snow" product for this one


You find it at a RR store usually. $8 for a TON of product. I haven't been able to use it all in over 5 years. I even use it for texturing other things (then painting it).
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JeepLC
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Posted: Monday, September 24, 2007 - 12:50 AM UTC
I used the woodland scenics for this one as well.



I mixed equal parts water/white glue/snow stuff. It makes a paste type substance. It is very easy to lay around and if u mess around with the mix you can make it slushy, fresh powder, or roadside dirty snow.
thedoog
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Posted: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 01:30 PM UTC

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I have had success with baking powder. It's tricky but effective and cheap.

Over a layer of Celluclay apply a thin layer of white glue. Over that, sift on some powder. To keep it in place very lightly spray on some hairspray. Keep spraying until it is completely absorbed. I have used this technique a couple of times and it has yet to yellow with age. So far any way. The trick is too practice a little and play with the technique first.

Well that's what I have used.
I just did a pretty thorough thread on why NOT to use baking soda for snow!!!! You are seriously courting disaster by doing so! I think I posted in this forum; use the search feature--it's titled "WARNING! DO NOT USE BAKING POWDER FOR SNOW!" (Pretty obvious, huh?!) Please though, in all honesty, I posted my reasons in that thread, and have been on a "campaign", so to speak, to spare others the dreadful experience I had. Take your chances, but you've been warned!
panzerboy1944
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Posted: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 04:35 PM UTC
Hi
Thanks guys for all your info I really do appreciate it tried the baking soda didnt work real good at all
Tarok
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Posted: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 06:01 PM UTC
You can also check out Jean-Bernard André's Archangel build feature. He discusses ice and snow techniques briefly as well...

HTH

Rudi
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Posted: Monday, October 22, 2007 - 04:33 PM UTC

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I have had success with baking powder. It's tricky but effective and cheap.

Over a layer of Celluclay apply a thin layer of white glue. Over that, sift on some powder. To keep it in place very lightly spray on some hairspray. Keep spraying until it is completely absorbed. I have used this technique a couple of times and it has yet to yellow with age. So far any way. The trick is too practice a little and play with the technique first.

Well that's what I have used.
I just did a pretty thorough thread on why NOT to use baking soda for snow!!!! You are seriously courting disaster by doing so! I think I posted in this forum; use the search feature--it's titled "WARNING! DO NOT USE BAKING POWDER FOR SNOW!" (Pretty obvious, huh?!) Please though, in all honesty, I posted my reasons in that thread, and have been on a "campaign", so to speak, to spare others the dreadful experience I had. Take your chances, but you've been warned!


Hey doog don't worry so much. Key word here being POWDER, not SODA. And there is a difference. Ive read about the baking soda and corrosion stuff. Ive only used flower or plaster powder mix.
f1matt
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Posted: Monday, October 22, 2007 - 04:57 PM UTC
That's correct. I used baking powder not soda. Although I have never tried the Woodland Scenics stuff. Looks like a good product. My snow has not yellowed (no jokes please) with age...so far. I built a base using baking s ..... POWDER and that was at least 4 years ago. Experiment and see what works for you.
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