Ok, i know there are probably a billion and one answers to this but i need to ask anyway so i don't look too much like an idiot.
for a non specific location diorama( i know most of you hate those, everyone wants a time, date, place, and photographic reference ) is there a general size Height/Diameter for telephone/electric poles in the European theater? I see a few in pictures but it's difficult to get an accurate judgement that way.
I appreciate any help anyone can give me.
thanks,
Gary Smith
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Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 05:35 AM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 05:44 AM UTC
I would say judge the size of the pole in relation to the other dio elements.
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Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 06:32 AM UTC
Hi there
My dad worked with BT so I have seen my dad working at the junction boxes on or around poles. They tend to vary quite a bit and can be relative to the surroundings. Some have to be tall enough to allow trucks or farm vehicles under, others are just tall to allow a large number of properties to be served off a single pole in the backs of their gardens without the cable drooping too low.
Some are just about the same height as the properties they are serving i.e. single storey roof line say half way up the roof pitch (5-6m) or two storey and above ceiling height of say the first floor or even second floor properties (6-9m).
I don't think any one would fault you for picking a size that was too tall or just a bit small, as long as it is in context.. Here is a good reference which I would think is consistant around the world
http://www.ext.vt.edu/pubs/trees/430-029/430-029.html
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All the very best
Nige
My dad worked with BT so I have seen my dad working at the junction boxes on or around poles. They tend to vary quite a bit and can be relative to the surroundings. Some have to be tall enough to allow trucks or farm vehicles under, others are just tall to allow a large number of properties to be served off a single pole in the backs of their gardens without the cable drooping too low.
Some are just about the same height as the properties they are serving i.e. single storey roof line say half way up the roof pitch (5-6m) or two storey and above ceiling height of say the first floor or even second floor properties (6-9m).
I don't think any one would fault you for picking a size that was too tall or just a bit small, as long as it is in context.. Here is a good reference which I would think is consistant around the world
http://www.ext.vt.edu/pubs/trees/430-029/430-029.html
Also
All the very best
Nige
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Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 06:36 AM UTC
Diagram from that web site if you read down to it.
Nige
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Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 08:06 AM UTC
Great guys,
thanks for the help, i was hoping that the case was relative to the buildings in the area. is it the same way with the diameter? is that dependant strictly on the height or did they use a standard?
thanks again for the help,
Gary Smith
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thanks for the help, i was hoping that the case was relative to the buildings in the area. is it the same way with the diameter? is that dependant strictly on the height or did they use a standard?
thanks again for the help,
Gary Smith
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Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 11:34 AM UTC
Hi there again
I would think that might be determined by the type of wood and the height. Best way is to look at a few around your own area. Anything about a foot diameter should be ok I think. Unless someone else can say.
Good luck
Nige
I would think that might be determined by the type of wood and the height. Best way is to look at a few around your own area. Anything about a foot diameter should be ok I think. Unless someone else can say.
Good luck
Nige
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Posted: Friday, November 30, 2007 - 12:44 PM UTC
I think you find that European poles differed to those in the UK.
We tend to have round single upright wooden posts but the ones I've seen in photographs in France are different.
Two companies I know make resin scaled examples
MK 35 - ww.mk35.com
and
RMG
Here is a link to a UK based company selling their items. RMG s web site currently off line being updated.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RMG-1-35-WW-II-POLE_W0QQitemZ220122312847QQihZ012QQcategoryZ1189QQcmdZViewItem
Russian ones I've seen are wooden like the UK, but the ones I've seen have an additional bracing leg almost K shaped without the top part of the K. Maybe to hold up against the more adverse weather conditions. As in the photo shown a couple of posts (no pun intended) above mine
Look under this site http://en.diorama.ru
They have an image library for reference, as indeed does Armorama I believe which may prove useful in future projects.
Failing that try an image search using good old Google.
Alan
We tend to have round single upright wooden posts but the ones I've seen in photographs in France are different.
Two companies I know make resin scaled examples
MK 35 - ww.mk35.com
and
RMG
Here is a link to a UK based company selling their items. RMG s web site currently off line being updated.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RMG-1-35-WW-II-POLE_W0QQitemZ220122312847QQihZ012QQcategoryZ1189QQcmdZViewItem
Russian ones I've seen are wooden like the UK, but the ones I've seen have an additional bracing leg almost K shaped without the top part of the K. Maybe to hold up against the more adverse weather conditions. As in the photo shown a couple of posts (no pun intended) above mine
Look under this site http://en.diorama.ru
They have an image library for reference, as indeed does Armorama I believe which may prove useful in future projects.
Failing that try an image search using good old Google.
Alan
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Posted: Friday, November 30, 2007 - 12:54 PM UTC
Hi
I'd just like to add after writing my last email it may be worth checking the two models I gave reference for are not power ones rather than telephone. They are just listed as WW2 poles. My initial search via Google shows only wooden posts so far.
Alan
I'd just like to add after writing my last email it may be worth checking the two models I gave reference for are not power ones rather than telephone. They are just listed as WW2 poles. My initial search via Google shows only wooden posts so far.
Alan
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Posted: Friday, November 30, 2007 - 01:10 PM UTC
Hey Alanmac,
thanks for the time and effort, that site is a helpful one. i appreciateyour time.
Gary Smith,
http://www.smithmilitarymodeling.com
thanks for the time and effort, that site is a helpful one. i appreciateyour time.
Gary Smith,
http://www.smithmilitarymodeling.com