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M2A2 Bradley
mrk1963us
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 04:38 PM UTC
I've only seen the Tamiya and the Academy Bradley out there. Are there others , and which have the best detail?
thanks
Jacques
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 06:21 PM UTC
The only M2A2 kit out there is by Tamiya...Academy's kit is just the M2. THe Tamiya kit is ok, but could use a bit of work.
blaster76
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 07:33 PM UTC
Do either of them have the interior?
134T
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 07:42 PM UTC
Yes. The Academy kit looks to me like a copy of the Tamiya kit. There is another M2A2 kit from Lee out there.
Vodnik
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 09:20 PM UTC
Lee kit is a very poor copy of Tamiya M2A2. Stay clear of it for you own good!

Tamiya kit requires enough corrections to make it a decent M2A2, and Lee model makes it only worse by poor mold quality and poor parts fit.
powerlogik
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 10:50 PM UTC
I have the academy m2 sitting here on my shelf. I understand the tamiya kit is now out of production. I've been getting a confused with the versions here. Could someone tell me (and point me to some pics) what the diference is between the m2 and the m2a2. Basically I'm trying to collect reference photos (not very successfully) and wish to build a model depicting the bradleys currently deployed in the middle east.

any reference links would be very apreciative as i'm not having much luck here.
powerlogik
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 11:04 PM UTC
ok now im getting really confused.....i've read that m3 bradleys are the current model.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 11:52 PM UTC
The M2A2ODS and M3A2ODS and M2A3 and M3A3 are the current Bradley variants. M2 (and "Ausf.'s") are infantry fighting vehicles (carry more GIBS, or guys in back sleeping), M3 (and "Ausf.'s") are cavalry fighting vehicles and carry fewer men and more TOW missiles. There are some structural differences in the rear ramp, top cargo hatch and back deck. Seating layout is also quite different, M3A2's(and later variants) don't have any firing ports on the rear ramp and crew access door.

Visually, an M2 and an M2A1 look similar. Same with an M3 and M3A1. The main difference between the M2/M2A1 and M3/M3A1 is the side firing ports, M3-series doesn't have any. Once you go to the A2 variant and beyond, they look very different from the earlier versions and even the most casual observer could tell the difference if they were next to one another.

As far as an M2A2 and M3A2, they are very similar in appearance and unless you looked at the back side or the top of the hull rear, you wouldn't know the difference. Of course the bumper numbers would be a sure give away.
Jacques
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Posted: Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 02:17 AM UTC
probably the biggest difference between the M2 and the M2A2 is the supplemental armor on the sides of the M2A2...
TempExp
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Posted: Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 06:35 AM UTC
powerlogik:

Here are a couple of reference links with pics and other information. Hope they help:

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/bradley/

http://www.pmbradley.org/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m2.htm
powerlogik
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Posted: Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 12:02 PM UTC
excellent....thanks all very much for pointing me in the right direction. I got so confused i thought i'd ask at the best resource out.....here

And here's hoping tamiya or some company gets their finger out to supply the current model as I can see them selling like hot-cakes at the moment. Really like the british vehicles too actually....but that's another question, in another thread, on another day.



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