I had yet another ideo for a dio yesterday. This one an aircraft subject. Has anyone seen this before (as it's not really that original an idea).... a WWII torpedo plane (Avenger perhaps) dropping it's torpedo low over the water with the torpedo creating a splashdown, etc. The trick would be how to suspend or mount the Avenger so that it wasn't too visable. Does anyone know at what height they use to drop the the torpedo? It it was pretty low then perhaps the spash could hide a mounting pole, etc.

I thougt it would be cool to try a water surface dio. And I think I would opt for some depth to the waterbase too as I would like to show a second torpedo already on it's run under the water.

Whatcha think?

Jim

Sounds like a great idea.
Try here:

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/ac-usn22/t-types/tbd-tp.htm

Could also use a swordfish, attacking the Bismark maybe?

Sounds like a dyno idea Jim!
I believe they use acrylic rods for the suspension part. Very clear w/o much of a visible edge on em.
Another idea as sort of a spin off of your's could be of Lancaster bombers that carried out the famous "dam busting" mission in 1943, destroying two large German river dams and releasing massive floods on the valleys below them.
Now if I could just find a pic of the bouncing, rolling, water skimming bombs they used. I know there was a lot of development on them.

Okee dokee, here she is:



Now imagine trying to do a dio with this baby, showing a couple of splashes from bouncing on it's way to the dam.

Sorry Jim, didn't mean to take away from your idea...just couldn't help myself. Besides, it was your idea of an "on-the-way" water bombing. :-)

Skip bombing?

Pic of a skip bombing attack:

http://www.strandlab.com/potd/020602.html

Okay Jim - here's a photo along the lines of your Dio-Idea...

http://www.webarmagedon.org/articulos/scahms_2002/scahms02.htm

This is a link to a pic of one of Master Figure Modeler Doug Cohen's recent entries at the 2002 SCAHMS California Show - bottom page, Life Raft and sunken Fighter...

Gunnie

Thanks for the info guys.

Gunnie....yes that would be the idea except perhaps not the ability to see the sides. More a top down looksie instead. The water would be pretty deep in this scenario, so how would you give it the effect of real depth if you can see through the sides.

I am thinking the base of this thing would need to be pretty large. The Avenger is a pretty large plane. Perhaps 1/48 scale would work well.

Jim
I have seen this dio done before. The guy did it with an Avenger. He attached the torpedo to the water at the nose and to the bird at the fins of the torpedo. It looked good, but the plane was really low to the water and the angle of attack for the torpedo was way too steep, something like 60 degrees. The "fish" were almost parallel when they hit the water. I'll look into this more and let you what I find. "Q" It is a good concept though.

Well, if I'm reading you correctly (and the sides are covered) then you could attempt forced-perpective from the viewing angle - top-down.

If you only make the depth of the box six inches, and select a smaller scale like 1/144 for the target, you could force an impression of the large target, deep underneath the "surface" of the box...

My thoughts...

Gunnie

Cool find M1. Now how would you model those plumes of water? They're huge!

Jim, does this mean you might build us a model? A really cool one to boot.

Hi Jim - good idea. here's a photo of what the planes
would have look like coming in on a torpedo run.
I've read that they would be as low as 100 ft off the water, when
dropping their torpedo. As you can see here.
- ralph

That would be a huge amount of material to make those wouldn't it? :-) :-) :-)