Detail of building photographed from above.
It is the first time I do a blasted building and I is not really pleased with the result.
Has someone of your some proposal. Is grateful for all help

maybe broken parts, too big?
petros

Hi,
I think your middle row of bricks you simulated on the top is wrong. If you have a massive building (can you post a picture of your reference Mt. Cassino?) with a thick wall, probability is great that between two rows of bricks the empty space was filled with stones, sand , debris etc.,

Than i would say that a wall build like that will not scrumbe in big pieces like you did. You have a brick wall, but where are your individual bricks now after the wall collapsed? They shoud not be attached to the mortar anymore. A lot of them should then of course be broken.
Make more smaller pieces, but all designed in such way that you can recognize that they were brick before. (edges, corners).
On top of that you have to add different sizes of sand or earth.

Spray everything black or dark grey, than start to bring your earth tones back, leaving the holes between the stones black.

Hope that helps
Claude

Thanks Claude exact what I were up after.


Unfortunately so has I only pictures from books, has searched on the net after them but not found them.
But what I can see so is the walls done without a cave room in the centre, but you see hugely poorly on the pictures.
Has some one good picture so please post it or send me an E-mail.
On the pictures, the big parts are as fallen down, can last parts of pillars or others part of marble, limestone or sandstone.

"the walls done without a cave room in the centre"

Perhaps, but for sure there are not three rows of bricks! Two perhaps or only one row with very big stones, so you are good if you dremel out your middle row and also you need to redo some mortar (with sand), and put that on top of your wall.

If i look at this picture from Mt Cassino
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Montecassino_after_Battle.jpg
i would tend to say that there is only one row of massive stones.

look at this link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/04/europe_the_battle_for_monte_cassino/html/3.stm

I found some pics on google by simply typing Monte Cassion.

Cheers
Claude

Here are some German paras in the ruins Lots of wood among the debris.
here you can see that some of the thicker walls are three or four blocks thick, but my experience of thicker stone block walls is that only the inner and outer face of the walls are laid with any care and the infill between is typically a random mixture of rubble and mortar.
more ruins andhere

hi
good start but as others have said, pieces are too big. on old buildings like this around europe they didnt use cement, they where jointed with a clay-mud. so when they are blown up they just go to single stones with lots of dust!!! also depending on the size of the building the middle of the wall would be just mud, some big stone in bigger buildings.

hope this helps
neil

Hello claude

Thanks for the pictures but they imagine the town Cassino,
My dio is from the monastery, and a specific part of this, that I try to recreate as careful as possible.
Almost that exact part you see on the photograph



It will see out as this picture approximately, it is from another part of the monastery but I have better pictures from that part I will build, but they are fairly smeared, difficult to see details

Hi Per, not wanting to get into any arguments - but many photos representing Monte Cassinos WWII destruction are actually that of Cassino town.
A few years ago I did alot of research on this subject only to find many sources siting pics. of the Abbey of Monte Cassino in ruins, only to find on other sources to have the same pics. quoted as being that of Cassino town.
The Abby was rebuilt in the mid 1300's I believe and had been reconstructed and repaired on and off all the way up to WWII.
The Abbey itself was originally [ 1300s build ] constructed mostly as a stone block on block method, but repairs and reconstructions along the years could have lent to different methods of stone and block work.
Aaaannnnyyyway here's some pics of the destroyed Abbey, and some of Cassino town.

The mount Abbey ruins. [ not necessarily Gospel ]





This next pic. is that of Allied soldiers building a protective area around the tomb and cell of St. Benedict which survived the bombing.



The next group of pics. are of either the actual Abbey or of the church or colosseum in Cassino town.









A pic. which was titled as Monte Cassino ruins, ............... notice the mountains in the background, ............ no way can this be the Abbey.



And lastly one of the most common pics. of Monte Cassino as viewed from the ruins of Cassino town.



Like I said don't want to start a peeing war, these are just refs. I've collected. I wasn't there so I can't say what is or is not a valid pic. l.o.l.
Cheyenne

Thanks everyone

Apologize if I annoyed someone it there not my sense.

You have been to big help; some off the photographs are new for me and to big help (thanks cheyenne).
An off mine special interests are also the Monte Cassino, has been there once and read most books about it.
It can be difficultly to see if pictures are on the town or monastery, also ”experts” says that pictures from the town are from the monastery in books, has found quite many like that and other pictures that are not from the area at all.

I agree with that the pieces are too big, and that it will be more grits.
I listen to you but I like to question things that are questionable
I believe that the walls are differently constructed depending on their thickness.
The extraneous wall is perhaps 2 metres the wide basis medans walls in the monastery is very thinner.

The detail I built is only a test, it will not be used in the dio