Hosted by Darren Baker
75mm Sherman turret types
MPi-KM
Tennessee, United States
Joined: August 20, 2007
KitMaker: 50 posts
Armorama: 32 posts
Joined: August 20, 2007
KitMaker: 50 posts
Armorama: 32 posts
Posted: Monday, December 31, 2007 - 07:42 PM UTC
Help out a Sherman newbie =8^) Is there a website that shows the difference between the 75mm Sherman turrets and to which model they belong to? I did a search on Yahoo but couldn't anything helpful.
HONEYCUT
Victoria, Australia
Joined: May 07, 2003
KitMaker: 4,002 posts
Armorama: 2,947 posts
Joined: May 07, 2003
KitMaker: 4,002 posts
Armorama: 2,947 posts
Posted: Monday, December 31, 2007 - 08:53 PM UTC
Gday Noel...
Sherman newbie huh?!
Fodder for the cannon Just kidding mate.
I can't off the top of my head think of an illustrated website that shows the differing turrets..
Maybe I could help with a specific type you had in mind?
There are cheek bulges, pistol ports, high and low bustles wide and narrow mantlets straight tapered and flared guntubes, periscope guards, sighting vanes, split hatch, visionblock cupolas, round and oval loaders hatches which all were in different arrangements depending on the tank wishing to be built.
Supply us with some more information and we can get to the bottom of it! (Or bloody close)
Brad
Sherman newbie huh?!
Fodder for the cannon Just kidding mate.
I can't off the top of my head think of an illustrated website that shows the differing turrets..
Maybe I could help with a specific type you had in mind?
There are cheek bulges, pistol ports, high and low bustles wide and narrow mantlets straight tapered and flared guntubes, periscope guards, sighting vanes, split hatch, visionblock cupolas, round and oval loaders hatches which all were in different arrangements depending on the tank wishing to be built.
Supply us with some more information and we can get to the bottom of it! (Or bloody close)
Brad
Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 12:04 AM UTC
Hi Noel,
Here are some sioghts you might find useful
http://www.usarmymodels.com/ARTICLES/Sherman%20Corner/shermanvariants.html
http://www.afvdb.50megs.com/usa/m4sherman.html
http://web.inter.nl.net/users/spoelstra/g104/track_vvss.htm
http://web.inter.nl.net/users/spoelstra/g104/gbdesig.htm
Will you be building British or American or Russian for that matter?
Hope this helps, best advice is to pick a specific vehicle and then check on the spec as there are a lot of possibilities.
Have a lot of fun.
Al
Here are some sioghts you might find useful
http://www.usarmymodels.com/ARTICLES/Sherman%20Corner/shermanvariants.html
http://www.afvdb.50megs.com/usa/m4sherman.html
http://web.inter.nl.net/users/spoelstra/g104/track_vvss.htm
http://web.inter.nl.net/users/spoelstra/g104/gbdesig.htm
Will you be building British or American or Russian for that matter?
Hope this helps, best advice is to pick a specific vehicle and then check on the spec as there are a lot of possibilities.
Have a lot of fun.
Al
Shermaniac
England - East Midlands, United Kingdom
Joined: August 06, 2003
KitMaker: 79 posts
Armorama: 75 posts
Joined: August 06, 2003
KitMaker: 79 posts
Armorama: 75 posts
Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 12:10 AM UTC
ARE YOU SURE YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW?
THIS SHERMAN STUFF CAN GET REALLY ADDICTIVE
I'VE BEEN HOOKED FOR OVER 30 YEARS
THIS SHERMAN STUFF CAN GET REALLY ADDICTIVE
I'VE BEEN HOOKED FOR OVER 30 YEARS
exer
Dublin, Ireland
Joined: November 27, 2004
KitMaker: 6,048 posts
Armorama: 4,619 posts
Joined: November 27, 2004
KitMaker: 6,048 posts
Armorama: 4,619 posts
Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 12:22 AM UTC
This is from a post by Hervé Charbonneau over on ML
and here is a diagram made by Dan Fong also over on ML
copyright Dan Fong
Quoted Text
1. Initial production, low-bustle 75mm turret
That's the basic type which appeared on early and mid production M4, M4A1, M4A2, M4A3 and M4A4 75mm gun tanks. It had the low radio bustle at the rear, a shell ejection port (a.k.a. pistol port) on the rear left side, and had only one hatch. Most were built with the early split commander's hatch with straight hinges. This is also the type of turret that received the welded-on appliqué as a means to compensate for the thinning of the right front cheek to make space for the new gun controls. This type of turret initially received the earlier M34 gun mount with narrow shield, later replaced on the production line with the revised M34A1 gun mount with full-width shield.
2. Late production low-bustle 75mm turret:
Same as the previous, but most of these were built without the shell ejection (pistol) port, and all had the reinforced (thickened) right front cheek and a single hatch. These all had the later M34A1 gun mount, and the early split commander's hatch with straight hinges. This type of turret was also seen on most 75mm Sherman types, though less commonly, and on initial production M4 with composite hulls.
3. High bustle 75mm turret:
This is the final type. It had the rear buslte raised to make better clearance for the new large hatches on revised Sherman hulls, a shell ejection (pistol) port, and the cast-in armor supplement on the right front cheek, as well as an additional, oval-shaped hatch for the loader. These were built with the M34A1 full-width gun mount. This turret, with a second roof ventilator added, was also used on 105mm howitzer (assault gun) tanks. High bustle turret were initially built with the late split commader's hatch with spring-loaded hinges, and later with the new all-round vision, single hatch cupola. This typer of turret was used on most large-hatch M4 (105mm only), M4A3 (both 75mm and 105mm) and M4A2 (late 75mm) tanks, and on late production composite hull M4.
and here is a diagram made by Dan Fong also over on ML
copyright Dan Fong
Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 06:40 AM UTC
Hi Noel,
Ive made a fair few shermans in my time, and all I can say is base your model on an actual, decide what shermy you want to make and buy the kit to fit the photo, not the other way around.
Welcome to the planet sherman, you dont have to be mad to be here, but it does help!!
The last post by pat is well switched on
cheers mate,
malc.
Ive made a fair few shermans in my time, and all I can say is base your model on an actual, decide what shermy you want to make and buy the kit to fit the photo, not the other way around.
Welcome to the planet sherman, you dont have to be mad to be here, but it does help!!
The last post by pat is well switched on
cheers mate,
malc.
MPi-KM
Tennessee, United States
Joined: August 20, 2007
KitMaker: 50 posts
Armorama: 32 posts
Joined: August 20, 2007
KitMaker: 50 posts
Armorama: 32 posts
Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 07:53 PM UTC
Thanks for the help