I am building the superb JS 3 kit from Tamiya. Goes together well. I wish to chip the top cover of green to show wear and tear. Is there a base coat for Russian WW II tanks?
thanks
DJ
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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2008 - 07:14 AM UTC
Jacques
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I am assuming you mean a JS-2? The JS-3, which Tamiya also makes a kit of, never saw documented combat in WWII (There are rumors, but that is all).
Your best bet is dark grey for the color of the armor plate, and dark green for the undercoat of paint. Most chipping I am familiar with goes directly to the metal, especially since the Russians did not tend to fuss over vehicle appearance in wartime, so there woudl tend to not be several coats of paint on a given tank.
Also, using Biffa's builds as a guide, using a piece of green scruby and some dark brown paint for the initial chips is a great way to start.
Non-war versions of tanks MAY have more chipping to a previous paint coat, but it would be small and would have been addressed quickly by the crew so it would look unusual.
Your best bet is dark grey for the color of the armor plate, and dark green for the undercoat of paint. Most chipping I am familiar with goes directly to the metal, especially since the Russians did not tend to fuss over vehicle appearance in wartime, so there woudl tend to not be several coats of paint on a given tank.
Also, using Biffa's builds as a guide, using a piece of green scruby and some dark brown paint for the initial chips is a great way to start.
Non-war versions of tanks MAY have more chipping to a previous paint coat, but it would be small and would have been addressed quickly by the crew so it would look unusual.
panzerkampfw
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Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 04:00 AM UTC
my military history prof. said js-3 saw action in Burma at the end of the war. So...
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Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 08:30 AM UTC
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my military history prof. said js-3 saw action in Burma at the end of the war. So...
Burma? Somehow I don't think so.
The first documented appearance of the IS-3 was at the 1945 May Day parade. There are no reports of it ever used in combat against the Germans.
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Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 09:18 AM UTC
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Quoted Textmy military history prof. said js-3 saw action in Burma at the end of the war. So...
Burma? Somehow I don't think so.
The first documented appearance of the IS-3 was at the 1945 May Day parade. There are no reports of it ever used in combat against the Germans.
Burma
Maybe, just a BIG maybe in Manchuria but not in Burma.
jjumbo
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Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:53 AM UTC
The js-3 was most definatly in manchuria but reports are sketchy about them being in and about berlin.
Has anyone read Panzer Commander: The Memoirs of Colonel Hans von Luck.
It was a while ago that i read it but near the end im sure he mentions something about Js-2/ js-3 tanks dug in in the woods near berlin.
Has anyone read Panzer Commander: The Memoirs of Colonel Hans von Luck.
It was a while ago that i read it but near the end im sure he mentions something about Js-2/ js-3 tanks dug in in the woods near berlin.
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Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 03:19 PM UTC
Again, JS-3 in WWII service is speculative at best. Manchuria is the only place where some consensus of possible use is really possible. BTW, there is always the comical idea of JS-3's going up against some poor SOB's in Japanese tankette's... "Hey Ivan, did you feel a bump?" 
Berlin, cool as that would be (Maybe even JS-III's up against the working Maus!) It just does not match the facts. Sorry guys.
Berlin, cool as that would be (Maybe even JS-III's up against the working Maus!) It just does not match the facts. Sorry guys.
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 01:09 AM UTC
Thanks for the response. Great kit if you have not gotten one yet, you might want to try one. I am a WW II American tank builder, but this diversion has been most enjoyable.
DJ
PS-- "Burma"....not a chance.
DJ
PS-- "Burma"....not a chance.
panzerkampfw
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 11:42 AM UTC
yes sorry, i meant manchuria ^^
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Posted: Monday, January 28, 2008 - 01:14 AM UTC
No problem, I meant JS-2 not JS 3......to err is human, to forgive divine 
spongya
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2008 - 06:24 PM UTC
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The js-3 was most definatly in manchuria but reports are sketchy about them being in and about berlin.
Has anyone read Panzer Commander: The Memoirs of Colonel Hans von Luck.
It was a while ago that i read it but near the end im sure he mentions something about Js-2/ js-3 tanks dug in in the woods near berlin.
I've just read it. No IS-3.
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 08:28 AM UTC
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Again, JS-3 in WWII service is speculative at best. Manchuria is the only place where some consensus of possible use is really possible. BTW, there is always the comical idea of JS-3's going up against some poor SOB's in Japanese tankette's... "Hey Ivan, did you feel a bump?"
Berlin, cool as that would be (Maybe even JS-III's up against the working Maus!) It just does not match the facts. Sorry guys.
According to Soviet records, the IS-3 never saw combat in WW2 being too late for the attack into Germany and not getting shipped to the East in time to contribute there.
Besides, just do what I'm doing with WW2 1946 dioramas; IS-3's against Panther Ausf F's, with Centurions and Pershings along for the ride!
Matt
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2008 - 10:06 PM UTC
Well, as I continue to construct this fine kit, I note that there are four marker lights two facing forward and two facing to the rear. I believe these should be painted with a white tip. Is this correct?
thanks
DJ
thanks
DJ
thompyt
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 12:04 AM UTC
The semi-equipment I work with is any indication. Front is white, rear is red.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 02:00 AM UTC
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The semi-equipment I work with is any indication. Front is white, rear is red.
Ah! That makes sense.
thanks
DJ
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