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Poland 1939 diorama
tommaso66
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Trieste, Italy
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 04:24 AM UTC
Hi guys,

Some times ago I saw a picture taken in Brest Litovsk (Poland) in September 1939 during the german invasion... where german and russian troops fraternized after capturing the town.
Only few months later they started to fight themselves with ferocity.

So I decided to build a diorama.

Here there are some photos and the original picture wich inspired me !!
ciao
Tom







pdelsoglio
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 04:34 AM UTC
Wonderful job! I like the "atmosphere" you have created in the diorama.
Congratulations!

Cheers, mate
SGTJKJ
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 04:40 AM UTC
Looks very good. Cool details and excellent layout.

Thanks for sharing
Kuno-Von-Dodenburg
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 04:55 AM UTC
I really like this.

Not only is it a beautifully composed and painted dio (the vehicles, the figures and the street are all fantastic), but the subject matter is also very unusual.

I've seen dios of US and Russian troops meeting up on the Elbe in 1945 (something that everyone knows happened), but never before have I seen one featuring German and Russian soldiers fraternising in 1939 (which far fewer people seem to be aware of).
sadodd
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 05:27 AM UTC
Tommaso,

WOW. Outstanding work.
Boosigns
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 05:30 AM UTC
Very nice work. Outstanding!
KoSprueOne
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 05:41 AM UTC
yes, a very unusual subject. I like the way you make the tires on all the vehicles look real.




tommaso66
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Trieste, Italy
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 06:33 AM UTC
Thanks all guys
for enjoing my job!!

Yes Steve, is a very unusual subject, that few people knows... for this I chose it!!

keep modelling friends
Tom
hogarth
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 07:14 AM UTC
Great dio! Really looks the part. Unusual subject, all built and painted really well.

One thing I noticed though (and I could be wrong) is the 38t. Not sure what kit you used there, but judging by the flat driver plate it has to be a D or later. But the D did not go into production until September of 1940, which means it couldn't have served in Poland. At least not at the time you seem to be depicting. Others with better info may correct me if my info is wrong/out of date.

A really great scene.

Rob
tommaso66
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 07:36 AM UTC

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...Not sure what kit you used there, but judging by the flat driver plate it has to be a D or later. But the D did not go into production until September of 1940, which means it couldn't have served in Poland. At least not at the time you seem to be depicting. Others with better info may correct me if my info is wrong/out of date...

Rob



Yes Rob,
Your info is correct and very good!!

The Panzer 38(t) D was the first model to have straight front plate and was in production between september and november 1940, and it couldn't serve in 1939!!
So you're right... I used the old Italeri kit and I've done a little mistake, but I hoped nobody notice it!!

tom
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 07:55 AM UTC
This is just perfect, very nice composition,I like the space in it. Very well executed, but I see a line in the street part, is there no way to fill this up ? That's my only remark, stunning diorama ! G.
hogarth
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 10:18 AM UTC

Quoted Text


Quoted Text


...Not sure what kit you used there, but judging by the flat driver plate it has to be a D or later. But the D did not go into production until September of 1940, which means it couldn't have served in Poland. At least not at the time you seem to be depicting. Others with better info may correct me if my info is wrong/out of date...

Rob



Yes Rob,
Your info is correct and very good!!

The Panzer 38(t) D was the first model to have straight front plate and was in production between september and november 1940, and it couldn't serve in 1939!!
So you're right... I used the old Italeri kit and I've done a little mistake, but I hoped nobody notice it!!

tom



Well, you worked wonders with that old kit (I see you added the driver hatch, among other things), so nothing to be ashamed of. I only noticed the issue b/c I'm working on a France 1940 dio, and was going to use the Tristar G, only to learn that it didn't appear until later.....so I bought the Tristar B instead.

Great job!

Rob
WingTzun
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 01:57 PM UTC
Very Nice job bringing that photo to life.
modelerama
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Macau S.A.R.
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 11:48 PM UTC
Great dio! In my opinion, it captures in a prety fair way the atmosphere and the tension of that time of the 2nd Word War. Congrats! The only thing I have to point is the absence of at least a couple or more civilians peeping out what's happening! Otherwise, a mastepiece!
Happy modelling!!!!!!
Jamesite
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Posted: Monday, January 28, 2008 - 12:18 AM UTC
A great dio on an interesting subject, and as mentioned one that few people are aware of. Your groundwork and scenery is excellent, as are the vehicles. I particularly like the civilian car, that looks great with that gloss paint (although in the reference pic it looks like it os parked the other way around!
The dio tells a great little story so well done.

One thing though, you mention that it was only a few months after september 1939 that Germany and Russia began fighting.
In fact hostilities between the two countries didnt start until June 22nd 1941, when Germany launched Operation Barbarossa and invaded the Russian held half of Poland. That is over a year and a half later!
Not sure if thats what you meant and don't mean to nit-pick, but just thought i'd check!

Great work on a brilliant dio all the same,

James
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Posted: Monday, January 28, 2008 - 07:50 AM UTC
Well done!

I like the dio, the selection of vehicles and the layout.

Great job

Cheers
Claude
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Porto, Portugal
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Posted: Monday, January 28, 2008 - 09:03 AM UTC
Fantastic dio,very good layout and paint job.
My only but is the line dividing the cobblestone street,that should be easy to fix.
Congratulations
Pedro
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Posted: Monday, January 28, 2008 - 11:41 AM UTC
excellent concept and execution.

I personally don't care about the pz 38(t) inconsistency, and (echoing the previous post) the break in the cobblestone is about the only thing I would point out as needing to be fixed.

I always admire people who have the energy to finish a diorama, especially done well like this one. I can hardly finish a model...
c5flies
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Posted: Monday, January 28, 2008 - 04:38 PM UTC
Very nice, Tommaso, pulling it all together based on the picture. Great details and layout, thanks for sharing.
blockhaus
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Posted: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 - 10:47 AM UTC
Hi Tommaso! I want also give my congratulations for your excellent scene: good layout, good modelling work, etc...
congratulations!
Slug
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2008 - 02:02 PM UTC
There are so many things to mention on this. I like the unusualness about everything, from the subject matter, to the motorcyle, bike and car, things you very rarely see in dios. Your talent really shows on this one.
Tommaso, you've done a wonderful job of catching a moment in time.

-Bruce
AlanL
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2008 - 07:34 PM UTC
Hi Tom,

Nice work all around, great setting. I really like what you've done here, however, the scene looks a bit stark/bare if you know what I mean. Would agree a couple of civilians or maybe one or two additional troops, a dog or some children running around would help. You have a lot of empty space and the vehicles look very precisely parked. Perhaps some rubbish on the street, kerb, or a stack of boxes waiting to be taken into the bulding.

The building looks great, again is there room for any additional interest, somethnmg in/at a window, some war posters/slogans or a Nazi flag?

I think you have a great dio here, figures, vehicles, building and everything looks grand but with some more focal points of interest I think you could have an outstanding one.

Cheers

Al
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2008 - 07:56 PM UTC
Nice dio mate, Iwould like to see a picture of the grass area and the statue please.
Robbo
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2008 - 08:05 PM UTC
Excellent.....Really nice job
tommaso66
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Trieste, Italy
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 07:10 AM UTC
Hi friends,
thanks all for your comments!

Alan, yes, maybe you're right.
In my first idea there was a civilian near the park bench but at at the end I wasn't satisfied of the figure I had placed there.
For the other suggestions, I can say that in all the pictures I've seen there were no childs or animals and and the town was very bare.
So I wanted to re-create that atmosphere!

In the next project I'll follow your adivices!!
Ciao
Tom
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