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T-34/85 camo scheme
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2008 - 10:46 AM UTC
Hi

I know i arlready asked a similar question but I really want to know if someone has Pics of an interesting T-34/85.



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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2008 - 11:31 AM UTC
Ha ha, try one of these...

T34
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2008 - 11:41 AM UTC
or this: Smoking gun
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2008 - 12:11 PM UTC
Thanks for the pics.

Althougth interesting they are not what i was looking for.

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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2008 - 12:17 PM UTC
Yeah, guessed not, but in the osprey book "Modelling the T34/76 and T34/85" ( AmazonUK)
there is an example of a Croatian T34 with markings applied using yellow car spray paint, which was common in the Balkan conflict...
Otherwise, it's probably middle eastern examples you need - and I know nothing about them I'm afraid

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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2008 - 12:48 PM UTC
Well,

not too many T-34/85's painted in a different color than solid green, with T-34/76 you'd have more choice, especially with the earlier variants, something like this:

http://www.battlefield.ru/tanks/t34_76/t34_20.jpg

Besides the obvious winter scheme (at least it's not green...):

http://www.ecomodelismo.com/ECO_imgArt/MAQU/MAQU-3505.jpg

You could consider one in Wehrmacht service, although the Germans didn't capture as many T-34/85's as they did with the 76.2mm version earlier in the war:

http://home.hetnet.nl/~mobyfoby/t-3485-duits/T-3485-duits.html

Or maybe Finnish:

http://www.kiitotie.net/wp-content/Parola/P1020412_T-34-85.jpg

Or maybe a post-war one in foreign service, like this (Croatian):

http://www.ospreypublishing.com/title_detail.php/title=S2091~ser=MAN

Or this (Egyptian):

http://www.europa1939.com/tanques/tanques/t341.jpg

Or this (Iraqi):

http://www.hobbiesguinea.com/images/mga36273.jpg
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 03:14 AM UTC
Thanks for the info.
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 05:20 AM UTC
In case you're thinking about doing a Finnish-operated T-34/85, don't go by that photo. The paint-job only resembles the war-time three-tone camo and the colors used are all wrong.
More shots of the same vehicle can be found here: http://www.andreaslarka.net/ps245002/ps245002.html

This Stug III here has an authentic paint job:
http://www.andreaslarka.net/ps531010/ps531010.html
Lärka's site is an awesome source of reference, but notice how many vehicles are noted for having inaccurate paint jobs. It's best to be wary with museum vehicles I guess.
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 09:44 AM UTC
Thanks for all the info. I think i'll go for the finnish one.
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 10:55 AM UTC
The camo scheme would look about this:
http://www.pienoismallit.net/galleria/kuva_708/
And here's another finished model of the same vehicle, right after capture, while being painted. (turret almost done)
http://www.pienoismallit.net/galleria/kuva_19308/
http://www.pienoismallit.net/galleria/kuva_19315/
Notice how there's a national marking on the back of the turret as well.

A two-part article about Stug III's. Despite being about a completely different vehicle type, they have good info about the three-tone camo and tank crew uniforms and equipment. -->
http://www.track-link.net/articles/79
http://www.track-link.net/articles/23

More about colors. There's two articles about Finnish tank camo on IPMS Finland's site.
http://www.ipmsfinland.org/artikkeli_artikkelit_suomalaisenmaakalustonnaamiomaalit.html
http://www.ipmsfinland.org/artikkeli_artikkelit_suomalaisenpanssarikalustonkolmivarikaavio19431-945.html
Being in Finnish, they're not much of a help, so here's the color info translated:

War-time three-tone camo.
Sample
Moss green:
10 parts HU116
1 part HU131

Grey:
10 parts HU72
1 part HU170

Sandy brown
HU170


Sample again
FS-codes:
Grey FS 36306, but darker
Moss green FS 24079
Sandy brown FS 30040, but less red or FS 30097, but less green.

edit:
I completely forgot decals.
There's two options that I'm aware of, Wiking-decals and Decalcomaniacs' sheets.
http://www.wiking.fi/eng/wikingdecals.htm
http://stores.ebay.com/Decalcomaniacs
I'm not sure if there's specific T-34/85 markings in either makers sets', but it's as simple as cutting up and re-arranging numbers.

I hope this is of help.


ps.
Here's another good reference site, not much about tanks, but even more about the rest of the army:
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/MAIN.html
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 03:07 PM UTC
Wow thanks for the cool info
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