Well we are struggling with this fiddly PE on this Hetzer.
Now I know why I don't like to use it no more.
Will use Floquil Red Oxide primer as to the metal in the darn thing for the primer coat.
I have tried to solder the fender brackets but as I can solder Copper Pipes but not 1/35 scale things I might of used to much solder on a few brackets.
It is not as noticeable in real size but Camera well at magnification shows it like a sore thumb.
Any hints on what some that do solder use to solder with?
I am using Radio shack silver solder and flux .
Comment on the Voyager set great detail but instructions are well for the birds all backwards and just use the pictures to mount,worse set of instructions I have ever used.
Hardest PE also.
Comments welcome.
Can always bury it in leaves or mud ,stowage.
I hope that in the Final paint the stray Black hairs from the cat are not their.
There was a bed right where the workbench is and the Cat used to sleep under it even after 100 vacuums the hairs appear like magic.
Or maybe that is my sweat pants shedding.
Thanks
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 12:55 AM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 03:01 AM UTC
Jeff,
The PE looks very well done. Wish I could do that well on mine! Looking forward to seeing it with a coat of paint. Its the Tamiya kit right? I have one of the older DML kits and wonder how they compare?
Darryl
The PE looks very well done. Wish I could do that well on mine! Looking forward to seeing it with a coat of paint. Its the Tamiya kit right? I have one of the older DML kits and wonder how they compare?
Darryl
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2008 - 12:54 AM UTC
Thanks Darryl.
Still aways to go.
Gosh those darn hairs piss me off.
Tamiya kit it is a review is here.
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/tamiya/tam35285.html
Enjoy the kit remember it is supposed to be fun not work.
Still aways to go.
Gosh those darn hairs piss me off.
Tamiya kit it is a review is here.
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/tamiya/tam35285.html
Enjoy the kit remember it is supposed to be fun not work.
sgtreef
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Posted: Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 07:00 PM UTC
Well updates this is how far I am now.
Wish I could build faster but work and family takes more then we think.
Sorry for any blurry pics I must learn to use that Tripod.
Wish I could build faster but work and family takes more then we think.
Sorry for any blurry pics I must learn to use that Tripod.
JackBlock
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Posted: Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 11:25 PM UTC
Looking good! I am looking forward to seeing the progress of this beast. I've got a couple of the Eduard versions in my stash, and this has got me eyeballing them.
As for the Black Cat Hair Gremlin..... you can clean your bench to the point of being sterile to perform an operation, but as soon as the Gremlin hears the opening of that first paint jar.... you've got a fresh dusting of hair.
Cheers
Dave
As for the Black Cat Hair Gremlin..... you can clean your bench to the point of being sterile to perform an operation, but as soon as the Gremlin hears the opening of that first paint jar.... you've got a fresh dusting of hair.
Cheers
Dave
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Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 05:45 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Looking good! I am looking forward to seeing the progress of this beast. I've got a couple of the Eduard versions in my stash, and this has got me eyeballing them.
As for the Black Cat Hair Gremlin..... you can clean your bench to the point of being sterile to perform an operation, but as soon as the Gremlin hears the opening of that first paint jar.... you've got a fresh dusting of hair.
Cheers
Dave
You are Correct no hairs in the Final coat I will make sure.
Thanks again.
sgtreef
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Posted: Monday, February 25, 2008 - 02:26 PM UTC
Another bump.
Getting nearer to finish time.
I did have to change the rear grill a tear in it,must remind self to watch out for those fine screens.
But good old Detail Master Plastic screen to the rescue even finer then the metal one.
Getting nearer to finish time.
I did have to change the rear grill a tear in it,must remind self to watch out for those fine screens.
But good old Detail Master Plastic screen to the rescue even finer then the metal one.
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Posted: Monday, February 25, 2008 - 02:47 PM UTC
Its looking good! I love the 38(t) Hetzer for some reason, probably because its just a little wedge of armor with a gun sticking out, about as simple a definition of an AFV as possible I started my Tammy one, I love the kit. I'm using the Voyager set for the Dragon one which the main thing being the rear fenders seems to be a dead match for the Tamiya one as well. And Voyager can definitely be a pain in the patootie for sure to figure out, after a while you get used to translating the view angles and errors, kinda like a Dragon kit's instructions. Its kinda freaking me out the Tamiya instruction actually match the kit exactly...
Its Hetzer mania! I love it
Its Hetzer mania! I love it
sgtreef
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Posted: Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 11:43 PM UTC
Thanks Kevin for the reply.
Well tried the "Hard Edge Camo"
The silly putty will not be used no more for that unless model is strictly a Non PE part model.
Needs some touch ups but as my first one I guess live and learn.
Has been fun so far.
These pics are taken at bench no fancy setups.
I hope to tie it all together with some careful touch ups. and oil washes.
Hints comments accepted.
Like stick to solid color things.
Thanks for looking.
Well tried the "Hard Edge Camo"
The silly putty will not be used no more for that unless model is strictly a Non PE part model.
Needs some touch ups but as my first one I guess live and learn.
Has been fun so far.
These pics are taken at bench no fancy setups.
I hope to tie it all together with some careful touch ups. and oil washes.
Hints comments accepted.
Like stick to solid color things.
Thanks for looking.
JackBlock
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Posted: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 01:40 PM UTC
[quote]Thanks Kevin for the reply.
Well tried the "Hard Edge Camo"
The silly putty will not be used no more for that unless model is strictly a Non PE part model.
Needs some touch ups but as my first one I guess live and learn.
Has been fun so far.
These pics are taken at bench no fancy setups.
I hope to tie it all together with some careful touch ups. and oil washes.
The other day I thought I felt a great rending in the force.... It was worse! I was tiny PE being torn from a model!
Cheers
Dave
Well tried the "Hard Edge Camo"
The silly putty will not be used no more for that unless model is strictly a Non PE part model.
Needs some touch ups but as my first one I guess live and learn.
Has been fun so far.
These pics are taken at bench no fancy setups.
I hope to tie it all together with some careful touch ups. and oil washes.
The other day I thought I felt a great rending in the force.... It was worse! I was tiny PE being torn from a model!
Cheers
Dave
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Posted: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 02:10 PM UTC
Yes that silly putty will tear some stuff off like all the side skirts and one of those little camouflage tie downs but over all not to bad really.
I found out that best to remove in one day after two was a fight on some things.
I found out that best to remove in one day after two was a fight on some things.
Posted: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 06:15 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Or maybe that is my sweat pants shedding.
Waaay to much information..
Your hard edge looks o.k. from here, just needs to be tied together with a good wash and spot wash. That will get rid of the ragged edges, and will transform it into a properly filthy, worn camouflage.
Good work so far Jeff, looking forward to see you finish this.
Henk
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Posted: Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 01:08 PM UTC
Thank You Henk will try to get it up to par.
Still learning the ropes on these Filters and all.
Dare I say maybe a dry brush AKA Francios Verlinden I aways liked his models him a Mr.Green comes to mind.
Remember we used to slap the tube of glue to it, grab a jar of Panzer Gray from PollyS and the old brush dip it in and Boy after all that paint dried we were one impressed Person. Plus get them Rubber band tracks on there looked even better.
Will try to keep up.
Still learning the ropes on these Filters and all.
Dare I say maybe a dry brush AKA Francios Verlinden I aways liked his models him a Mr.Green comes to mind.
Remember we used to slap the tube of glue to it, grab a jar of Panzer Gray from PollyS and the old brush dip it in and Boy after all that paint dried we were one impressed Person. Plus get them Rubber band tracks on there looked even better.
Will try to keep up.
DT61
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Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 01:39 PM UTC
Dave,
Did the silly putty give you a hard time? Looks very good, now to start the weathering.
Darryl
Did the silly putty give you a hard time? Looks very good, now to start the weathering.
Darryl
sgtreef
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 10:52 AM UTC
Sure did Darryl.
Still finding a piece every now and then.
Stuff kind of slides around.
Well here are a few more pics now just about done.
I think I need to learn weathering better.
Still need to do the MG the rest of exhaust inside barrel Dull coat the whole thing a few more things.
Learning more on this one.
Here is one with flat coat on.
A bad thing is the learning curve on this one.
I should of not tried a little future on one area as no way to get that line out only on this side and right there.
Live and learn.
Next time tried and true way to apply decals or Dry transfers.
right here
Still finding a piece every now and then.
Stuff kind of slides around.
Well here are a few more pics now just about done.
I think I need to learn weathering better.
Still need to do the MG the rest of exhaust inside barrel Dull coat the whole thing a few more things.
Learning more on this one.
Here is one with flat coat on.
A bad thing is the learning curve on this one.
I should of not tried a little future on one area as no way to get that line out only on this side and right there.
Live and learn.
Next time tried and true way to apply decals or Dry transfers.
right here
sgtreef
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Posted: Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 12:23 AM UTC
Blending stuff in Pics.
Well I am about done some more scratches and about all.
Cheers
Well I am about done some more scratches and about all.
Cheers
DT61
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Posted: Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 02:04 AM UTC
Or spray future on the entire panel, that way no line The Hetzer looks great!!
Darryl
Darryl
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Posted: Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 05:28 AM UTC
Getting there, Jeff! Maybe a rust streak to try to hide that line? An old contractor once told me "Everybody makes mistakes, how well you cover them up is how good you are"
Great work on the PE, don't know how much is left after the silly putty but looks good in the beginning!
How did you do the exhaust rust, mottle Umber and Sienna? Looks good.
Thanks for the great write-up, keep us posted!
Great work on the PE, don't know how much is left after the silly putty but looks good in the beginning!
How did you do the exhaust rust, mottle Umber and Sienna? Looks good.
Thanks for the great write-up, keep us posted!
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Posted: Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 09:33 PM UTC
Thanks James and Darryl.
I am calling it done on this one here.
All PE is still on there as was in the Original pics
James the exhaust is done with Pastel powders using Dullcoat as the carrier on the First coat used Bragdon ones after first coat a little water is then used to melt together Medium and Light rust and then a hint of black soot from MIG.
Looks close so good enough.
Any errors will be chalked up to the ,Learning curve.
Must remember to use tried and proven methods.
On to the Next one.
I am calling it done on this one here.
All PE is still on there as was in the Original pics
James the exhaust is done with Pastel powders using Dullcoat as the carrier on the First coat used Bragdon ones after first coat a little water is then used to melt together Medium and Light rust and then a hint of black soot from MIG.
Looks close so good enough.
Any errors will be chalked up to the ,Learning curve.
Must remember to use tried and proven methods.
On to the Next one.
Posted: Monday, March 17, 2008 - 06:56 AM UTC
Hi jeff,
Excellent stuff I like this vehicle a lot.
Al
Excellent stuff I like this vehicle a lot.
Al
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Posted: Monday, March 17, 2008 - 08:06 AM UTC
i like it a lot! very very good work!
Vittorio
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Posted: Monday, March 17, 2008 - 01:09 PM UTC
Thanks for the Comments Alan and Vittorio.
It is a good kit and if you are thinking of one go for it.
The glue together tracks are great and weather real good.
5 Stars for Tamiya on this one.
Worth the money all the way.
It is a good kit and if you are thinking of one go for it.
The glue together tracks are great and weather real good.
5 Stars for Tamiya on this one.
Worth the money all the way.
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Posted: Friday, March 21, 2008 - 06:28 AM UTC
5 more pics and outdoors.
All of them on this one.
Well as Porky would say Thats thats all folks/
My bud in England suggested I look into a Anti-static gun to remove the fuzzy hairs.
Think I might take him up on that idea.
I did have to replace the Rear Screen with plastic mesh from Detail master bet you could not tell if I had not said so.
Clumsy toothpick.
Which was finer then orginial got to love that stuff.
All of them on this one.
Well as Porky would say Thats thats all folks/
My bud in England suggested I look into a Anti-static gun to remove the fuzzy hairs.
Think I might take him up on that idea.
I did have to replace the Rear Screen with plastic mesh from Detail master bet you could not tell if I had not said so.
Clumsy toothpick.
Which was finer then orginial got to love that stuff.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 01:57 PM UTC
Came out real nice.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 03:23 PM UTC
Jeff,
Excellent work. Very good looking, especially with all the PE stuff. Again outstanding work.
P.S. Don't get frustrated about the future incident. It's all part of the learning process and at least you can try out different methods on the next project. I agree with whoever said it's how well you cover up a mistake that says how good you are. From the looks of it you are very good.
Excellent work. Very good looking, especially with all the PE stuff. Again outstanding work.
P.S. Don't get frustrated about the future incident. It's all part of the learning process and at least you can try out different methods on the next project. I agree with whoever said it's how well you cover up a mistake that says how good you are. From the looks of it you are very good.