http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/02/16/0216diorama.html
What an @$$.
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 01:44 AM UTC
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exer
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 02:03 AM UTC
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/02/16/0216diorama.html
That's putting it mildly
Quoted Text
What an @$$.
That's putting it mildly
jjumbo
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 02:24 AM UTC
I agree
Even if it wasn't "accurate", what a !@#$%^&*+ tool this guy Hunt was to destroy someone else's hard work.
That's my $.02 worth.
jjumbo
Even if it wasn't "accurate", what a !@#$%^&*+ tool this guy Hunt was to destroy someone else's hard work.
That's my $.02 worth.
jjumbo
keenan
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 02:45 AM UTC
You can reply to the author of the article. Here is my letter:
I among others am frankly appalled that the diorama was essentially disassembled and thrown in the trash because its "historic inaccuracies." In this day and age when so many of our children do not care about history or their heritage these young people spent time they could have doing other less constructive things actually built a huge diorama under the tutelage of their teacher.
I am a modeler. I build dioramas. I don't sell them on commission. I build them for me because it is my hobby. I built a model of the USS Chicago, which was to those of you who aren't students of World War Two naval history the second ship into Tokyo Bay behind the USS Missouri, for a man on that cruiser when he was very young but is now very old. He did not complain about its accuracy. He cried.
I will not even begin to list the museums I have been to and seen "historically inaccurate dioramas". It happens.
Perhaps Mr. Hunt would rather had those children spend thousand dollars and countless hours surfing the internet and playing Nintendo?
Good call Mr. Hunt.
T Shaun Keenan
I among others am frankly appalled that the diorama was essentially disassembled and thrown in the trash because its "historic inaccuracies." In this day and age when so many of our children do not care about history or their heritage these young people spent time they could have doing other less constructive things actually built a huge diorama under the tutelage of their teacher.
I am a modeler. I build dioramas. I don't sell them on commission. I build them for me because it is my hobby. I built a model of the USS Chicago, which was to those of you who aren't students of World War Two naval history the second ship into Tokyo Bay behind the USS Missouri, for a man on that cruiser when he was very young but is now very old. He did not complain about its accuracy. He cried.
I will not even begin to list the museums I have been to and seen "historically inaccurate dioramas". It happens.
Perhaps Mr. Hunt would rather had those children spend thousand dollars and countless hours surfing the internet and playing Nintendo?
Good call Mr. Hunt.
T Shaun Keenan
jabo6
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 03:40 AM UTC
what a WANKER
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 03:59 AM UTC
wow that much time into something and it was destroyed for some inaccuracies!!! i build for fun not to make knit pickers happy! total pri***s. hope they ge reimbursed for thier time
Grumpyoldman
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 04:24 AM UTC
I find it interesting that a "New Curator" would take it upon himself to simply destroy museum property. Perhaps the museum needs to look for a replacement curator. More importantly perhaps hitting Mr. Jeff Hunt where it hurts the most is a wonderful option. Refuse to purchase any of his books. (I know I will)
Since the museum actually paid the 23 grand for the materials used, and I agree with the statement of retired Army Lt. Col. Jack Savoy, a member of the museum's volunteer association, who said that "a lot of us are upset" about the situation and that Hunt "had no business destroying that display, because it belongs to the museum, and it belongs to the State of Texas" perhaps the State of Texas, and the Museum will actually do the right thing and bring charges of "willful destruction of state property" to Mr. Jeff Hunt. I'm sure the "willful destruction of state property" has similar penalties in Texas, as it does in NJ.
Since the museum actually paid the 23 grand for the materials used, and I agree with the statement of retired Army Lt. Col. Jack Savoy, a member of the museum's volunteer association, who said that "a lot of us are upset" about the situation and that Hunt "had no business destroying that display, because it belongs to the museum, and it belongs to the State of Texas" perhaps the State of Texas, and the Museum will actually do the right thing and bring charges of "willful destruction of state property" to Mr. Jeff Hunt. I'm sure the "willful destruction of state property" has similar penalties in Texas, as it does in NJ.
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 04:43 AM UTC
This guy won't be in a job much longer...check this out...
http://www.everyzing.com/viewMedia.jsp?index=4&match=none&expand=true&filter=1&num=4&dedupe=1&start=0&col=en-all-public-ep&channel=132&res=0&e=18509303
http://www.everyzing.com/viewMedia.jsp?index=4&match=none&expand=true&filter=1&num=4&dedupe=1&start=0&col=en-all-public-ep&channel=132&res=0&e=18509303
keenan
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 04:58 AM UTC
Write a letter...
Shaun
Shaun
kerickson
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 05:00 AM UTC
I just sent an e-mail to the author of the news story myself. Maybe if enough people sound off this jerk might get fired. "Hunt could not be reached for comment" is an understatement. Just saw the Youtube clip. Worst person in the world is the only thing you can say about this guy and still stay on TV. Is there a way to forward this thread to the Texas National Guard?
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 05:03 AM UTC
If he is a state employee perhaps a criminal charge of official misconduct would be in order
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 05:28 AM UTC
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In Pennsylvania, we would call that either :I find it interesting that a "New Curator" would take it upon himself to simply destroy museum property. Perhaps the museum needs to look for a replacement curator. More importantly perhaps hitting Mr. Jeff Hunt where it hurts the most is a wonderful option. Refuse to purchase any of his books. (I know I will)
Since the museum actually paid the 23 grand for the materials used, and I agree with the statement of retired Army Lt. Col. Jack Savoy, a member of the museum's volunteer association, who said that "a lot of us are upset" about the situation and that Hunt "had no business destroying that display, because it belongs to the museum, and it belongs to the State of Texas" perhaps the State of Texas, and the Museum will actually do the right thing and bring charges of "willful destruction of state property" to Mr. Jeff Hunt. I'm sure the "willful destruction of state property" has similar penalties in Texas, as it does in NJ.
3304(a)(5) Criminal Mischief A person is guilty of Criminal Mischief if he intentionally damages real or personal property of another. If the loss is in excess of $5,000.00 this is a Felony 3.
or more properly,
3307 (a)(5) Institutional Vandalism, (the blah blah blah from above)...damages any personal property located in any facility set forth above. Felony 3.
Not only was that diorama not his property to destroy at a whim, who is he to say that it is not 'historically accurate'??? What historical account is 100% accurate?
I wish this had happened here.
Epi
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 06:13 AM UTC
WOW, lets see what its like at work tomorrow when I get there. I work at one of the shops there on Camp Mabry.
Im pretty sure there is an email sitting in my email box that was given out to all the employees of Camp Mabry. I will let you all know.
Im pretty sure there is an email sitting in my email box that was given out to all the employees of Camp Mabry. I will let you all know.
kerickson
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 06:21 AM UTC
Salute to 18Bravo for posting this one!
PrestonVonStruben
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 10:25 AM UTC
man i tell you what, if some guy threw my models off the roof i would kill him and throw his body in the ocean. maybe we should do that.
lol
lol
Cyberwombat
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 02:44 PM UTC
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A book written by historian Jeff Hunt formed the basis for the Palmetto Ranch diorama.
Hunt was hired in October to run the Camp Mabry museum. He dismantled the diorama after determining that it was inaccurate.
The students use his book as a basis for the diorama, which he then decides is inaccurate.
Doesn't reflect very well on his work, does it?
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 03:04 PM UTC
What a tragic lose especialy for the stodents who put in all the effort,my heart goes out to them.Do you now what autherisation he had to do this,shorley he should lose his job at least,or be prosicuted
exer
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 03:20 PM UTC
This is really sad both for the museum and the school. Sad for the museum because they have an oaf as a director who has appropriated the Palmetto Ranch battle and anything to do with it as his own. How long before he finds innaccuracies with the other Dioramas the school have presented and wreaks havoc on them.
Sad for the school as I know how hard it is sometimes for children to realise the value of their own artwork. I work with children making art I'm appalled that someone would destroy someone's work no matter how innaccurate. How willing would you be to work on another diorama if after the destruction of the last one.
Check this out
http://texasmilitaryforcesmuseum.yuku.com/topic/1076/t/Palmetto-Ranch-Diorama.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TMFMAustin/message/8
Sad for the school as I know how hard it is sometimes for children to realise the value of their own artwork. I work with children making art I'm appalled that someone would destroy someone's work no matter how innaccurate. How willing would you be to work on another diorama if after the destruction of the last one.
Check this out
http://texasmilitaryforcesmuseum.yuku.com/topic/1076/t/Palmetto-Ranch-Diorama.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TMFMAustin/message/8
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 05:09 PM UTC
I did try to write a decent sounding reply to this, but this fool has just gotten me pretty upset. An educated person does not do these things. He is just as bad as all of those who want to destroy our history. I do not care how inaccurate the diorama was, those kids worked on it for far too long for some single person to destroy it.
It makes a person sick to know those kids worked so hard only to have that man wipe their work away, because he didn’t like it. How many of us parents have gotten a piece of art work our kids have done and it is totally rotten. But we hang it on the refrigerator. Why do we do this? Not because it is the next masterpiece, but because we love our children and want to encourage them to move on.
He does need to loose his job, this is totally wrong.
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 05:38 PM UTC
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How long before he finds innaccuracies with the other Dioramas the school have presented and wreaks havoc on them.
Here's your answer on the museums own forum...
"Mr. Hunt has already let it be known that he plans to substantially correct inaccuracies in the Alamo diorama. I fervently hope that he is prevented from doing so."
t34-85
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 06:08 PM UTC
Whoa, imagine if a judge did that at a model contest: "Inaccurate!" and whammo! The diorama is reduced to bits and pieces...
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 06:33 PM UTC
Who hired this jerk anyways? I salute the students who laboured long and hard to produce this diorama.
I want a picture of Mr. Hunt.....
Sight picture that is!!
I want a picture of Mr. Hunt.....
Sight picture that is!!
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 06:52 PM UTC
I can't really express how much this jerks actions appall me, he should be very publicly be fired and disgraced.
18Bravo
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Posted: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 11:32 PM UTC
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Salute to 18Bravo for posting this one!
Well, all I did was forward information that (thankfully) has apparently attracted worldwide attention already. I just feel a little helpless here. It's not the type of thing you can take up a collection for, or outfit a platoon with. It's knowing that a s--tbag lives three hours from your house, and there's nothing you can do to remedy a bad situation. Letter writing is great, but I"d rather get the LOCAL news channel to put his face on the six o'clock news. I'd like to see his face every day in the Kroger's, the HEB, or wherever he might shop, so that he'll end up either mail ordering his corned beef hash or moving someplace where no one know what a dolt he is. Fortunately, those places seem to be diminishing in number even as I peck away here. Maybe by the time I get home I might still find a dusty copy of his book in a second hand shop so that I can burn it. What I HAVE done is ask my wife to inform the local Barnes and Noble. Any else live near one?
The letter from the girl who worked so hard on the diorama really hit me hard, especially in this day and age, when it's so hard to keep a teenager focused on anything for more time than it takes to watch the latest installment of "Survivor."
It's also funny (or not) that he had been the curator of the museum in Fredicksburg, where my wife and I went on our honeymoon, and we still visit to get furniture made. I had pointed out to her that the occupation medal on one of the mannequins was turned the wrong way. I know because about once every three years I'm required to see if my class A's still fit, and I wear that medal. I wonder if he was there at that time?
I 'm at least thankful I never donated any of my overflow models to the museum at Camp Mabry, which I love, by the way. I know that any one of my models has at least a few inaccuracies, and if the treated my work as he did those kids' work, which was way more than I'd ever put into a model, he'd need the services of a proctologist after I finished with him.
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