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Armor/AFV: Techniques
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creating AR flags an tarps
CabeBooth
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Posted: Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 10:38 AM UTC
didn't know whether to put this in armor or diorama but,
I have seen very articles on making fabric accessories for AFV's.
Anybody have some home recipe or learned methods of making recognition flags, tarps and other draping or rolled fabrics for use on stowage or otherwise?
Any and all ideas would be great
Ramboalphaeco
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Posted: Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 11:07 AM UTC
For cip panels I use a piece of orange decal cut to scale and set on tissue paper, seems to look the part. The shade of orange doesn't matter much since the panels fade to different degrees. For modern green tarps tissue pper painted grren seems to work well also.
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Posted: Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 11:21 AM UTC
White (PVA) glue diluted with warm water and thoroughly mixed (approx 20% glue works well). To that take a piece of tissue paper (like Kleenex) and soak it well and wring it out so that it isn't dripping wet. Then just drape, roll or what have you until it looks right. Let dry for a night and paint. Results in a pretty nice looking end product and you can find a million and one uses for it. Tarps and rolled canvas made this way look something like this.

I hope thats of some help,
Thi
CabeBooth
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Posted: Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 01:55 PM UTC
that looks pretty snazzy
thanks for the tips.
I guess that is something you would add last, if you wanted to drape it.

what are some "found in the home" materials that make good straps?
I have some sing that I soaked in glue to get rid of the frizz and hit with some color. and then some thing wire. But straps...
I am sure my head will think of something obvious.
Thiazi
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Posted: Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 02:05 PM UTC
For straps I use either thick lead foil (like the kind that comes on some wine bottles) flattened and cut into strips with a very sharp knife, or I use aluminium foil that I fold over to the right thickness and then cut as well. For the actual buckles I just use a small gauge copper wire bent with fine plyers into the proper shape. And make sure to use CA glue (superglue) to hold it all together.

-Thi
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Posted: Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 02:50 PM UTC
Great.
I did some Kleenex the other night on wax paper stretched on a board.
I have some Woodland Scenics Latex Rubber, following the tip in the Digital diamonds or features area (he suggested using bathroom silicone). I put a bit of the rubber in a pill bottle added some water to the top and shook it up until it was milk. I used a sponge brush and coated 2 normal Kleenex. It dried in an hour and I noticed the latex had settles to the bottom of the tissue. So I flipped it over for another coat.
Not I have 2 latex Kleenex sheets that are somewhat malleable and I have not done anything with them yet. They do stick to one another when hey come into contact, so they do have some tacky qualities to the. I might roll or fold one of them up and try some washes to see if it takes.
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Posted: Monday, March 03, 2008 - 01:45 AM UTC
Sounds like you're off to a great start. I've found the glue/water combination works best for the very reason that it dries hard but still takes pretty much any finish.
CabeBooth
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Posted: Monday, March 03, 2008 - 02:37 AM UTC
yeah,
I am sure yours is the better route to go.
I'm just impatient as my stug slowly progresses so i thought I would try some stuff on the side that I could add and remove from the stug ass it is not fully painted yet.
But I am sure when it is done I will do that or set some wood blocks aside and do a trial run on them with the glue mix
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