Rhone, France
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2008 - 10:04 PM UTC
Another one from Webshots. This one looks rather "basic"...
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Frenchy
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Armed Forces Pacific, United States
Joined: June 10, 2006
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2008 - 11:26 PM UTC
In my humble opinion, THIS IS STUPID!!!! Im sorry for yelling there but the enemy isn't using mines as much as IED's, as in "Improvised" and EFP's. Also for anyone who has driven with a trailer on a vehicle in reverse can tell ya, its no easy feat. Try doing it all day from the looks of the set-up. Also slowing a vehicle down so it can employ this thing, yeah not too smart. I think this is just some company trying to cash in on the worries over there. The sad thing is that someone bought off on it. Just my 2 cents.
-Dan
Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Friday, March 07, 2008 - 11:53 PM UTC
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In my humble opinion, THIS IS STUPID!!!! Im sorry for yelling there but the enemy isn't using mines as much as IED's, as in "Improvised" and EFP's. Also for anyone who has driven with a trailer on a vehicle in reverse can tell ya, its no easy feat. Try doing it all day from the looks of the set-up. Also slowing a vehicle down so it can employ this thing, yeah not too smart. I think this is just some company trying to cash in on the worries over there. The sad thing is that someone bought off on it. Just my 2 cents.
-Dan
For one thing, yes the enemy uses land mines .....ALOT.
And another, one popular way to set off IED's is with a pressure plate.........
Concept is sound, application might be a little off.
cheers
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Oklahoma, United States
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Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 05:59 AM UTC
Dan,
We fabbed the rollers, used them, and the they worked to keep Soliders alive in th esouthern Salah ad Din province in 2005. So, maybe that type of initiator was not used in your neightborhood but they used the christmas light wires in ours and those rollers worked.
John
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Massachusetts, United States
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Posted: Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 06:47 AM UTC
They sure as heck used mines around Fallujah, their fav was the double stack AT mine. When dealing with the muj, never say never, and never say always. Just my .02, which won't buy you anything the in the exchange...
Doc Ski
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Illinois, United States
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 06:41 AM UTC
Looks like a great application of GI ingenuity. Frow the pics it appears the rollers are free to caster and the attached vehicle has backed into it's parking area. This would reverse the position of the wheels in relation to the frame. Also there are two members connecting the frame to the vehicle in a rigid connection, not like a trailer. Am I right? This would look interesting in a diorama.
Here's the same idea, different method.
http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/jan2006/a011206dg2.htmlIf it's mine rollers in the Middle East or hedgerow cutters in Normandy just let the GI's get to work and they will solve the problem.
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Kobenhavn, Denmark
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 06:52 AM UTC
Interesting picture - could be a nice conversion.
Thanks for sharing
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Northern Ireland, United Kingdom
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 07:09 AM UTC
Bit off topic, but what the heck, would'nt it be better to get a bunch of Dirka's to walk in front of the humvee ? solve two problem's at the one time !!
Indiana, United States
Joined: January 28, 2004
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Posted: Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 09:58 AM UTC
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Bit off topic, but what the heck, would'nt it be better to get a bunch of Dirka's to walk in front of the humvee ? solve two problem's at the one time !!
Inappropriate, but okay. With the reduction in violence, I know of more than one unit that takes locals - many times their translator - out on patrol. They are familiar with the area - as are most of the troops in the AO - and many want to help the troops because in most cases soldiers are a much less threat to them than the insurgents now.
Jeff
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Indiana, United States
Joined: December 25, 2006
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Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 02:21 PM UTC
It looks like the threat of suicide bombers is back and taking a heavy toll again. Too bad they don't have a "mine" roller for suicide bombers that separates them from the innocent civilians.
While I like to see interesting ideas for modeling subjects, it can be overwhelming to consider why these devices exist. Not just a neat or curious photo of something odd, but a response to having your buddies killed or horribly wounded.
Like last week when I stopped in a hobby shop. The clerk was helping someone look for a kit and muttered that he didn't know that it was so popular with "warmongers". I promptly stopped him and explained that it was an interest in history that I chose to express in 3D. Lest we forget the price paid by the few so that the many could remain blissfully peaceful and free. All a matter of perspective. (Now I'm REALLY off topic)
Myanmar
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Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 02:32 PM UTC
Build it Frenchy. This would be a very interesting model.
i watched a scale plastic figure crawl along the edge . . . of an exacto blade . . . that's my dream , it's my nightmare . . . . . . . crawling , slithering . . . . . along the edge . . . . . . of an exacto . . . . . blade . . . . and surviving