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Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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OP Barbarossa question
merkava8
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Posted: Friday, April 25, 2003 - 12:41 PM UTC
Okay now that I've finally chosen a model, the SdKfz 222, where can I find reference mat'l online perferably pics. What was the colour of the 222? Was it Panzer Grey? Did the Germans load stowage all over thier vehicle like the Allies or were they clean? Almost every picture I see they are clean.
Well thanks for the help guys.
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Posted: Friday, April 25, 2003 - 12:43 PM UTC

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Okay now that I've finally chosen a model, the SdKfz 222, where can I find reference mat'l online perferably pics. What was the colour of the 222? Was it Panzer Grey? Did the Germans load stowage all over thier vehicle like the Allies or were they clean? Almost every picture I see they are clean.
Well thanks for the help guys.



Pz Gray for sure for OP Barbara, Merk. Yeah, all the pic I saw for the 222 is clean as well, except for a couple helmets hanging out.

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Posted: Friday, April 25, 2003 - 12:45 PM UTC
Thanks Dave
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Posted: Friday, April 25, 2003 - 01:55 PM UTC
I will see if I can find any pictures in the Panzer Colors books I have after the weekend...

PzC I, page 3: Baglike thing (tent ?) hangeing on front, bag hanging in right rear side (Libya, early 1941).
PzC II, page 12: a helmet, jerrycan and a stowage bag over the rear (pic taken on Balkans (Greece ?)..
PzC II, page 66: a helmet (Russia 1943).
PzCIII, page 10: Again baglike thing (tent ?) hanging from front. Stowage box on right front fender.. (Russia, date unknown, Dark Grey paint used).
PzC III, page 13: stowage bags and boxes on rear, stowage on right side, just before fender (?). One with stowage between welded-on extra armor plate (triangular consruction, gape between nose and rear of structure about 0.5 to 0.75 wheel diameter) and nose of vehicle again tent ?), and a bag. Both from LAH in Greece, 1941.
PzCIII, page 22: no visible stowage (from "Florian Geyer", when still a brigade)...

None of the stowage was excessive (the stowage on those of LAH was the most)...it was all rather sparse... Also, according to PzC I, crews in Russia, especially in the Southern sector, sometimes applied stripes/coats of mud over the vehicle (which were painted Pazer Grey) to provide additional camouflage in the Rusian planes, as Panzer Grey kind of stood out.
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Posted: Friday, April 25, 2003 - 05:10 PM UTC
Hi Mike,
a few links for sdkfz 222
1.Tom Cockle has good photos of building a 222 in ML
http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/german/tc222.htm
2.interior and some extra details of 222 in kithobbyist
http://www.kithobbyist.com/AFVInteriors/222/222a.html
3.color photos for 222
http://www.geocities.com/hohenn/photo2.html
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 03:08 AM UTC
You could also spray it grey and apply white over it for a winter whitewash there is a famous picture of a LSAAH 222 in Russia in 1943.
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 03:09 PM UTC
Thanks Greywolf the second link was a great help, espesially for the interiors.
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