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Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2008 - 04:31 AM UTC
have done the groundwork and a wall so far.!!!





this is my attempt at doing bullet holes?? any good?

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Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2008 - 08:32 AM UTC
Ground work looks cool! I cant wait to see the other elements.
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Posted: Sunday, March 23, 2008 - 08:07 PM UTC
its all the same color now. the main track was made using italeri putty. spread liberally then mushed around a bit! i will apply some sand, or something similar, to create texture in the gutters.
i have started carving the longest (undamaged wall)(well undamaged means not falling to bits) bullet holes are being carved in to the wall.
going to buy the deskit simca 5 berline to place on the right hand side of the second pictuer(the place that has been dusted with pigments. more pictures today as the groundwork is now dry. will dry brush and add pigments liberally to the gutters!






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Posted: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 02:15 AM UTC
Jimmy,

Looks like a great idea for a diorama , love the digital images did you create them yourself ? I look foward to see it come together, Just one thing though, I feel the Bren gunner and the MG 42 positions maybe a little to close to one and other, did you think of having a couple of Britiish Paratroops behind thhe wall preparing to fling some granades into the mg 42 position , it may tell the story better and add the tension of combat , currently I am unsure about the story you want to depict other than a general battle scene.

Hope this helps,

Jerry


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Posted: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 02:30 AM UTC
The Scene Represents the unpredictibility of combat.
the german gunners nor the british team was aware of each others presence until they spotted each other, the germans had a temporary firing position covering a british advance and a german retreat.
i understand that the scene may be over close, but you never know whats going to happen in war.
the images are courtesy of a great videogame by THQ canada
Company of heros.
(and the expantion pack opposing fronts)
this comes with a great map editor.
i used the map editor to roughly 3D my idea and see if it was ok!
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Posted: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 03:50 AM UTC
were the walls topped with what i have made, (some kind of slate) or otherwise?
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Posted: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 09:16 AM UTC
Fixed a wall on. only one left.

used a seam of white glue to make the wall look more "joined" to the base.
This wall has Bullet holes carved into it!

hopefully when it is painted it will look more convincing.
more pics soon. well when my static grass arrives
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Posted: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 01:21 PM UTC
hey, it's lookin good.......I'll be watching it with interest.

btw, I noticed you commented in another thread on your age. Well, hey from another teen modeler.
lespauljames
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Posted: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 01:33 AM UTC
Niice!

also just started a vigginette!! looking forward to posting pics on it.
i have put more shells on the base, just wating for the static grass and verlinden figures to arrive! more pics tonight!!
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2008 - 02:49 AM UTC
static grass down, scince these pics were taken the grass was dusted with mig pigmesnt sparsely and the road was re pigmented also
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two more walls to go, (i have already made one side of one of them), im waiting for the figures that i can measure the height of the machine gunner against the wall that will be broken.
accesories and maybe a tree will be added.

im really hoping to get athe deskit simca 5 , to put in the little parking bay, but if i cant afford that it will have to be a kubelwagen, although i wont be able to paint soft ege camo on it
comments???

james
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2008 - 03:24 AM UTC
looking nice. But I don't think you can put 2 machine gunners that are enemys so close together.

Lars
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2008 - 03:38 AM UTC
i dont see a problem with it. they both have cover. and it is more than likely that it happened in real life anyways.
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2008 - 06:07 AM UTC
it was origonally, the arnhem set from dml, and the name just stuck!!!


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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2008 - 08:07 AM UTC
I know it could kill you from a short distance. But i mean that a machinegun is used to give cover and to let a enemy stay on his place. I've never seen two machineguns that close together.

Lars
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2008 - 09:19 AM UTC
the mg 42 team are covering a german retreat.
the bren team couldnt see them, untill the last second. the bren team hits the dirt and a firefight opens out. simple!
i do appreciate the fact that they are close, but funds and space is an issue also.
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2008 - 11:15 AM UTC
Sorry Lars, but Jimmy's idea is perfectly feasible.

I had a great uncle who was a Bren gunner in Borneo. During an advance on enemy positions, he ran down a jungle track and single-handedly took out 2 machine-gun posts from a distance of 10 metres. He won a VC for it. Had he stayed in place and gave covering fire, a lot of his men would have been killed. Instead, he drew their fire and used the accurate Bren to great effect against the 5 Jap's manning the machine-guns.

Looking forward to seeing your figures in place Jimmy.

Chas
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2008 - 08:53 PM UTC
thinaks for the posotive feedback on the idea. im just waiting for the men !
hopefully they will arrive this half of the century!!

--practiced painting faces last night i got a nice base down working with what i have, i mixed tamiya flat flesh and earth brown. then lightened with tan flesh and white as i built up the shadows. i did the eyes almost first. bottom lip painted nato brown mixed with flesh and tan. then i did a wash over the lot and ruined it. i probably not going to be using washing on figures again. lol
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2008 - 10:02 PM UTC
Oh sorry, I thaught he would place 2 machineguns like a mg42 and a 30 cal or a 50 cal. With a bren its possible.

Lars
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2008 - 10:39 PM UTC
hey dont matter,
would be interesting tho,
would they have time to set up?
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Posted: Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 01:23 AM UTC
Hi Jimmy i like what you are doing so far and it has the making of an interesting scene.One thing i would be aware of is the situation of the German Mg team giving covering fire for the retreat.I would show them in a non-fixed position as the position you have put them in would not be one chosen for a fixed position due to the limited arc of fire with the walls in front.I would show them in a hurried position maybe even with the bipod in the closed position and the weapon resting on the wall,this way it would give the figures a sense of retreating under fire from an advancing enemy.
As for the bren gunner your idea is fully logical,although the weapon was primerilly a suppressing fire weapon it was also capable of close assault work with great effect.
Just a thought for you and good work mate.

Steve
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Posted: Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 06:16 AM UTC
we are on the same wavelenght!!
that is pretty much how it is. ill find a picture....
...and whilst i am looking, the retreating soldiers you will not be able to see
and the other advancers you wont be able to either.
with the vheicle i place, i dont want it to be damaged as it is an expensive kit. is there anything i can place against it that will absorve the bullets instead of damaging a cute little kit?
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Posted: Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 06:51 AM UTC
Yeh them figures look the part.
I see your point abut not wanting to model any bullet holes in the car kit,you could possibly put a stacked pile of chopped fire wood at the end of the wall infront of the vehicle to obscure the projectile angle of the mg42,it would have to be a pretty thick pile of descent sized logs to stop a mg42 round though.I at first thought of some barrels but they wouldnt stop a round passing through them at that range.The logs would fit the scene as you have the axe with the tree stump on show.

Steve
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Posted: Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 08:09 AM UTC
i am unsure whether to keep the car in the same position now, wood it really be believeable to put the would in the way of the cars means of exit tho? pun intended!
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