Hi people
For the first time, I bought Mr Surfacer. Now, I want to use it for cast textures.
But how I use it? Only apply it on the plastic, or are some more steps necessary?
Thanks for every help.
Nils
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Mr Surfacer
Panzerkommandant
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2008 - 12:10 AM UTC
beefy66
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2008 - 12:38 AM UTC
I,ve used mr surfacer on my sherman turrets for a cast finnish.To do this i brush on in a small area about 50mm square then with another large flat stiff brush stipple the painted on surfacer until you get the right effect.This way works best for me hope it helps. Another point is if you leave painted on surfacer for 2/3 minutes to dry slightly you get a slightly rougher effect.You can also use the surfacer for weld seams by painting a masked off line leave to dry for a few minutes then use a scalple blade to scribe the weld lines. 
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2008 - 12:40 AM UTC
Hi Nils. Is it the Mr. Surfacer 500 you have?
No other steps necessary .... just stipple it on once, or even twice if needed, with an old stiff brush. Dont worry about it being too rough ... it self levels a little bit, and you can take away any exaggerated bits with sand papaer when dry. I use acetone free nail polish remover or cleaning the brush again.
No other steps necessary .... just stipple it on once, or even twice if needed, with an old stiff brush. Dont worry about it being too rough ... it self levels a little bit, and you can take away any exaggerated bits with sand papaer when dry. I use acetone free nail polish remover or cleaning the brush again.
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2008 - 12:49 AM UTC
Hi Keith and Frank
Yes, it is the 500. Thanks for your replies, now I will try it to stipple it on the surface. 
Yes, it is the 500. Thanks for your replies, now I will try it to stipple it on the surface.
bigford
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Posted: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 07:19 AM UTC
the hobby shop i go to said that you will no longer
be able to buy mr. surfacer due to chemical regs here in the states.
not sure how true that is but it would'nt surprize me
be able to buy mr. surfacer due to chemical regs here in the states.
not sure how true that is but it would'nt surprize me
sawgun69
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Posted: Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 08:22 AM UTC
you should believe your hobby shop they know everything
vanize
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Posted: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 11:59 AM UTC
Quoted Text
the hobby shop i go to said that you will no longer
be able to buy mr. surfacer due to chemical regs here in the states.
not sure how true that is but it would'nt surprize me
It was actually restricted from import to the US for a short while, but it is available again.
FLiPSiDE
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Posted: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 06:02 PM UTC
My LHS has a sign up that says that they will no longer be stocking Gunze Sangyo brand (Mr Color) paints due to an import issue. They had a brand new full rack of Mr Surfacer and other "Mr" family stuff so I was thinking it just applied to the paints? If anybody has more info on this I'd be interested. I'll be sad if I can't buy their products anymore 
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bill_c
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Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 03:03 AM UTC
Can anyone tell me how to apply Mr. Surfacer and what you can clean it up with?
My paintbrush will never be the same after its encounter with that nasty stuff....
My paintbrush will never be the same after its encounter with that nasty stuff....
210cav
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Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 05:08 AM UTC
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Can anyone tell me how to apply Mr. Surfacer and what you can clean it up with?
My paintbrush will never be the same after its encounter with that nasty stuff....
Use any size brush. As stated in the thread a stiff brush provides a nice effect. Clean - up I use lacquer thinner. Works like a charm.
DJ
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Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 06:27 AM UTC
The surfacer 500 is a great stuff -and I'm running low. I could not really find, however much use for the 1000. The spray is awesome, but the jar format wasn't very successful. What do you guys use it for? (I'm not saying it's not good; I'm only saying I could make much use of it so far.)
Thanks...
Thanks...
210cav
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Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 06:45 AM UTC
Quoted Text
The surfacer 500 is a great stuff -and I'm running low. I could not really find, however much use for the 1000. The spray is awesome, but the jar format wasn't very successful. What do you guys use it for? (I'm not saying it's not good; I'm only saying I could make much use of it so far.)
Thanks...
You can rough up the side of a Sherman turret, Russian vehicle and as one wise contributor posted use as a weld.
SSGToms
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Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 06:54 AM UTC
I thin Mr. Surfacer and clean brushes with isopropyl alcohol. I bought a pack of those kids cheapo nylon brushes at the dollar store just to use with Mr. Surfacer. They're good for application and if I ruin one, so what? Cut down to 2 or 3mm they're perfect for stippling and texturing.
What else is it good for? First and foremost, it is paintable putty, and is made for filling seam lines, ejector pin marks, sanding scratches, and pin holes.
You can also fill a seam with it, let it dry for a few minutes, and then wipe across the seam with a cotton swab dampened with isopropyl alcohol. This will remove the Mr. Surfacer on the surrounding surface and leave the seam filled with no sanding.
What else is it good for? First and foremost, it is paintable putty, and is made for filling seam lines, ejector pin marks, sanding scratches, and pin holes.
You can also fill a seam with it, let it dry for a few minutes, and then wipe across the seam with a cotton swab dampened with isopropyl alcohol. This will remove the Mr. Surfacer on the surrounding surface and leave the seam filled with no sanding.
spongya
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Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 07:03 AM UTC
DJ,
Thanks for the answer -this is what I use the 500. The 1000 is so much finer, that it does not really lend itself to these applications. At least my efforts were not very successful, so while I went through a jar of 500, the 1000 jar is still full. So I gotta find some use for it
Thanks for the answer -this is what I use the 500. The 1000 is so much finer, that it does not really lend itself to these applications. At least my efforts were not very successful, so while I went through a jar of 500, the 1000 jar is still full. So I gotta find some use for it
vanize
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Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 08:17 AM UTC
Quoted Text
My LHS has a sign up that says that they will no longer be stocking Gunze Sangyo brand (Mr Color) paints due to an import issue. They had a brand new full rack of Mr Surfacer and other "Mr" family stuff so I was thinking it just applied to the paints? If anybody has more info on this I'd be interested. I'll be sad if I can't buy their products anymore
the story goes that there is some chemical in their paints that is listed as a hazardous substance in California. This means they have to have a warning label in English, or it cannot go thru California.
Now, can you guess where all the importers for Japanese hobby products are located?
Apparently Mr Surfacer was breifly affected until someone realized it didn't have that chemical in it.
210cav
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Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 08:46 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextMy LHS has a sign up that says that they will no longer be stocking Gunze Sangyo brand (Mr Color) paints due to an import issue. They had a brand new full rack of Mr Surfacer and other "Mr" family stuff so I was thinking it just applied to the paints? If anybody has more info on this I'd be interested. I'll be sad if I can't buy their products anymore
the story goes that there is some chemical in their paints that is listed as a hazardous substance in California. This means they have to have a warning label in English, or it cannot go thru California.
Now, can you guess where all the importers for Japanese hobby products are located?
Apparently Mr Surfacer was breifly affected until someone realized it didn't have that chemical in it.
Brilliant move! Mr Surfacer probably contain less harmful chemicals that half the drugs that flow through California
But, I use it and like it. Great primer. 
thedoog
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Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 03:55 PM UTC
I've tried Mr Surfacer, but I find it UNGODLY stinky!
UGH---it smells something FIERCE!
I have been using Squadron Putty in Testor's liquid cement for years--just buy an extra bottle of Testor's liquid cement, use it til it's about halfway done, and squeeze in a half bottle of green or white putty. Mix it up with a stick, and it's even more versatile IMO than Mr Surfacer.
Still smells somewhat like glue, but IMO a lot less pungent than MS.
Add either putty or glue to suit thickness--clean up the brush in another bottle of Testor's glue.
UGH---it smells something FIERCE!
I have been using Squadron Putty in Testor's liquid cement for years--just buy an extra bottle of Testor's liquid cement, use it til it's about halfway done, and squeeze in a half bottle of green or white putty. Mix it up with a stick, and it's even more versatile IMO than Mr Surfacer.
Still smells somewhat like glue, but IMO a lot less pungent than MS.
Add either putty or glue to suit thickness--clean up the brush in another bottle of Testor's glue.
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