Hi,
Got these figures yeserday.
Can somebody please help with the colours for the camo jackets and the greatcoats, I use Vallejo mainly but do have some Tamiya's too.
Thanks,
Phil.
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Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 10:17 AM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 10:37 AM UTC
Hi
Vallejo actually do an equivalents cross reference list on their web site.
If I remember correctly its a pdf so you can download it and have it on your PC for reference.
Its a little annoying that one of today's most popular range of paints does not get referenced on most of the models manufactured these days.
Alan
Vallejo actually do an equivalents cross reference list on their web site.
If I remember correctly its a pdf so you can download it and have it on your PC for reference.
Its a little annoying that one of today's most popular range of paints does not get referenced on most of the models manufactured these days.
Alan
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Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 08:30 PM UTC
Hi!
Check this link - it maybe helpfull.
http://www.coloradominiatures.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=5
BTW: nice figure set!
Andrzej
Check this link - it maybe helpfull.
http://www.coloradominiatures.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=5
BTW: nice figure set!
Andrzej
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Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 10:15 PM UTC
Thanks Alan and Andrzej.
I may be stupid but the colour conversion on the Vallejo Site and the .pdf seems off?
However the link listed show me exactly what I need!
I totally agree these are fantastic I can wait to get started on them!
Thanks,
Phil.
I may be stupid but the colour conversion on the Vallejo Site and the .pdf seems off?
However the link listed show me exactly what I need!
Quoted Text
BTW: nice figure set!
I totally agree these are fantastic I can wait to get started on them!
Thanks,
Phil.
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Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 10:47 PM UTC
Hi Phil
Yes, I know what you mean, but I don't think in some instances it's a colour "match" you get but what each paint manufacturer regards as the right colour if you understand my meaning.
So whilst Panzer Grey etc. may be listed as an equivalent to another colour when you compare the two colours they are different.
I don't find that a problem especially with uniforms as these, it seems with the Germans later on in the war, cloth colours changed due to varying qualities of material, dyes used etc.
There is always debates about what colour is the true colour for this or that.
I also have the list that Andrzej directs you to and its very helpful in giving some variety to the uniforms.
For example I'll use the Vallejo 830 Field Grey for the trousers and the mixture of 830 Field Grey with 868 Dark Sea Green for the tunic, whilst on another use it it the other way round.
As you are aware no doubt because of the transparent nature of Vallejo colours they change with the variation in colour dependant on base coat colour and the number of coats you apply of any one colour.
I tend to use the Calvin Tan style of painting, spraying my models with a black primer, Games Workshop Chaos Black from a can, before dry brushing with Vallejo white to bring out the highlights, and then on with the main colours. It doesn't seem to obscure the detail, but then like all things it's down to how it's applied.
I'd recommend his book (Calvin's) although I don't exactly follow his way, or achieve the results he does !! but it's a good start.
Did you get this set as the Premium Set set or was it the older release ? I understand its just the equipment, weapons that have been upgraded with Gen2 stuff.
Alan
Yes, I know what you mean, but I don't think in some instances it's a colour "match" you get but what each paint manufacturer regards as the right colour if you understand my meaning.
So whilst Panzer Grey etc. may be listed as an equivalent to another colour when you compare the two colours they are different.
I don't find that a problem especially with uniforms as these, it seems with the Germans later on in the war, cloth colours changed due to varying qualities of material, dyes used etc.
There is always debates about what colour is the true colour for this or that.
I also have the list that Andrzej directs you to and its very helpful in giving some variety to the uniforms.
For example I'll use the Vallejo 830 Field Grey for the trousers and the mixture of 830 Field Grey with 868 Dark Sea Green for the tunic, whilst on another use it it the other way round.
As you are aware no doubt because of the transparent nature of Vallejo colours they change with the variation in colour dependant on base coat colour and the number of coats you apply of any one colour.
I tend to use the Calvin Tan style of painting, spraying my models with a black primer, Games Workshop Chaos Black from a can, before dry brushing with Vallejo white to bring out the highlights, and then on with the main colours. It doesn't seem to obscure the detail, but then like all things it's down to how it's applied.
I'd recommend his book (Calvin's) although I don't exactly follow his way, or achieve the results he does !! but it's a good start.
Did you get this set as the Premium Set set or was it the older release ? I understand its just the equipment, weapons that have been upgraded with Gen2 stuff.
Alan
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Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 11:33 PM UTC
Hi Alan,
Thanks for the reply.
I have just ordered Calvin's book along with a few others! It took a while to find it on Amazon as it was listed as Chris Tan!
It is the premium set, and from what I have read it is origingal figures with Gen2 tools, weapons and some PE. There is a nice Maxim MG on a trailer in there too.
I am working on the Luftwaffe Field Division Gen2 set at the moment and these fired an interest in figures!
Thanks,
Phil.
Thanks for the reply.
I have just ordered Calvin's book along with a few others! It took a while to find it on Amazon as it was listed as Chris Tan!
It is the premium set, and from what I have read it is origingal figures with Gen2 tools, weapons and some PE. There is a nice Maxim MG on a trailer in there too.
I am working on the Luftwaffe Field Division Gen2 set at the moment and these fired an interest in figures!
Thanks,
Phil.
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Posted: Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 11:46 PM UTC
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I have just ordered Calvin's book along with a few others! It took a while to find it on Amazon as it was listed as Chris Tan!
I know I had the same problem, as I brought from Amazon. Wish I'd got Jaume Ortiz's and Mark Bannerman's ones at the same time.
I must admit armour crews for tanks etc. has got me interested in figures more and more.
Have you checked out Calvin's site Perspectives in Miniature ?
http://www.zyclyon.blogspot.com/
Along with the dedicated figure web site within this site, Historicus Forma you also have planetFigure and TimeLines as excellent sources of help and inspiration in modelling and painting figures.
Alan
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Posted: Monday, April 07, 2008 - 01:01 AM UTC
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Posted: Monday, April 07, 2008 - 01:11 AM UTC
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I know I had the same problem, as I brought from Amazon. Wish I'd got Jaume Ortiz's and Mark Bannerman's ones at the same time.
They're the "Others" I mentioned.
I have book marked all of the sites you mention, there are some great figures on them. They will all be useful as I soon hope to start painting faces with oils.
Thanks,
Phil.