I'm currently building DML's kit and I have a few questions:
1. What are those 4 large boxes marked not to be used in the instructions? As far as I remember, they were only indicated for M1A1 HC in the 3535 kit. What are they used to carry?
2. How is the BRE attached to the bustle rack on the real tank?
3. There are 2 pieces X 13 that look to me as track connectors with bolts. Is this what they really are?
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Danu
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Posted: Monday, April 07, 2008 - 07:59 PM UTC
CombatKrieg
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Posted: Monday, April 07, 2008 - 08:26 PM UTC
I'm not sure what you're talking about in the 3 question but they could be spare tracks...
Danu
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Posted: Monday, April 07, 2008 - 09:07 PM UTC
Nop, they're not spare tracks - the kit doesn't include any 
. They seem to be either a way to secure the BRE to the BR, given the place where they are indicated to be glued (and that's the reason for my 2nd question) or 2 of the parts the track teeth are bolted to.
. They seem to be either a way to secure the BRE to the BR, given the place where they are indicated to be glued (and that's the reason for my 2nd question) or 2 of the parts the track teeth are bolted to. 
f1matt
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Posted: Monday, April 07, 2008 - 09:10 PM UTC
To answer question three. If you're talking about what I think you're talking about then yes, you are correct. Track link end connectors. My guess as to why they are included is, often on Abrams these extra tack connectors are slid onto the large metal spring which holds down each of the front fenders. This spring is just a long piece of wire bent in a sort of "L" shape. The only thing that puzzles me is why only two are included when pictures show at least half a dozen on each spring. I guess it is just a handy way of storing them. I'm sure I could find a picture and post it if that would help.
-Matt
-Matt
Epi
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Posted: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 01:25 AM UTC
Matt,
The track connector when slipped over the metal "spring" is used to hold open the fender when the track is being serviced.
Danu,
If no one comes and answers your questions, I have the instructions handy on my bench at home and I will look and see what you are talking about.
With out looking at the instructions, answer to #1 is ammo cans and they are used to store crew gear.
The track connector when slipped over the metal "spring" is used to hold open the fender when the track is being serviced.
Danu,
If no one comes and answers your questions, I have the instructions handy on my bench at home and I will look and see what you are talking about.
With out looking at the instructions, answer to #1 is ammo cans and they are used to store crew gear.
Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 02:23 AM UTC
To answer question #2, just take a look at Andy "TankLeader" Elesky's article on Olivier Carneau's website (in PDF format). The included pictures show how the BRE is attached to the turret rack.
Bustle Rack Extension
HTH
Frenchy
Bustle Rack Extension
HTH
Frenchy
CombatKrieg
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Posted: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 02:49 AM UTC
Could you attach pictures to let us have a clearer idea of what you're talking about?
Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 03:13 AM UTC
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The track connector when slipped over the metal "spring" is used to hold open the fender when the track is being serviced.
I've just found a picture showing this on Flickr
HTH
Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 03:36 AM UTC
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To answer question three. If you're talking about what I think you're talking about then yes, you are correct. Track link end connectors... I guess it is just a handy way of storing them. I'm sure I could find a picture and post it if that would help.
-Matt
keesklok
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Posted: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 03:49 AM UTC
Question #1 : The boxes you mean are the MRE-boxes. Those are the cardboardboxes 
Danu
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Posted: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 06:50 AM UTC
Thanks for your prompt answers guys! I must correct myself: the parts I was referring were W13 not X13.According to what I saw in the link to Andy "TankLeader" Elesky's article (thanks Frenchy!!), they actually hold in place the BRE . I was hoping they were extra ...mid track connectors (??), the parts that are bolted to the track pins, so I may use them to attach the spare weel to the tank; well, I'll have to scratchbuild those. I wasn't reffering to the end track connectors that go on the front of the tank.
I'm sorry I've been so laconic, it seems my questions caused quite a confusion. I wasn't referring to the MRE boxes, but to those boxes on the e sprue (yep, small e...). Thank you for the info Pete, can you tell me if they're still being used on SEPs?
I'm sorry I've been so laconic, it seems my questions caused quite a confusion. I wasn't referring to the MRE boxes, but to those boxes on the e sprue (yep, small e...). Thank you for the info Pete, can you tell me if they're still being used on SEPs?
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Posted: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 07:03 AM UTC
I'm not that familiar with the kit, but if you show the parts, or the instructions, chances are I have a close up picture of that part of the tank.
18Bravo
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 12:53 AM UTC
Is this the area you're referring to?
Danu
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 06:11 AM UTC
Thank you for the close-up pictures 18bravo. The parts I was referring to is the one in the red circle:
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Anyway, once i got them off the sprue, i realized they're actually two times smaller than the track pin
I should have this checked before asking....
Anyway, once i got them off the sprue, i realized they're actually two times smaller than the track pin
I should have this checked before asking....Epi
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 06:24 AM UTC
GOT IT!
DJ,
DAMN COMPUTER, Ok it was me trying to figure out how to re-post Danu's picture.
210cav
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 06:27 AM UTC
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Pete-- nothing but the dreaded red dots!
DJ
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 06:29 AM UTC
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Thank you for the close-up pictures 18bravo. The parts I was referring to is the one in the red circle:
I thought as much. Hope everything is sorted out now. If you need other pics, let me know.
Danu
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 07:35 AM UTC
Thank you guys! I've never posted a picture before and I edited the post 3 times before giving up...
Danu
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:36 AM UTC
Some weeks ago I've seen in a topic on M1A2 TUSK (which I don't seem to find right now...) a misplaced picture of a row of tanks with extra armor hanging between the first and second roadweels. As far as I remember, they were M1A2s, but I'm not sure if they were SEPs. Does anyone know more about those tanks, the 'conversion' and what unit they belonged to?
18Bravo
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 10:08 AM UTC
I don't know aout the photos you're talking about, but if you're asking because you want to know if it would be proper to add the TUSK to a current M1A2 SEP, the answer is yes. And yes, I know which unit is adding them, and where, but it's a moot point as all markings save the barrel bands have been painted over.
So you may happily add it. I'd love to see pics of the progress.
So you may happily add it. I'd love to see pics of the progress.
Frenchy
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 10:34 AM UTC
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Some weeks ago I've seen in a topic on M1A2 TUSK (which I don't seem to find right now...) a misplaced picture of a row of tanks with extra armor hanging between the first and second roadweels. As far as I remember, they were M1A2s, but I'm not sure if they were SEPs. Does anyone know more about those tanks, the 'conversion' and what unit they belonged to?
Are these the pics you're talking about ? These A2s belong to 2nd Platoon, Company C, 1st Battalion, 68th Armor Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division (Photographer: Pfc. April Campbell, 3rd BCT, 4th I.D Public Affairs.) :
http://aycu05.webshots.com/image/44804/2003167266495166436_rs.jpg
http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/45196/2003974546487609788_rs.jpg
HTH
Frenchy
Epi
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 12:46 PM UTC
Danu and guys,
Keep an eye on post from AngryDog. I'm in the process of helping him out by providing technical info from the current manual on the TUSK. He is in the process of creating aftermarket sets that will fit on the AIM and SEP.
I just sent him a bunch of info and as soon as I can get a break, I will be sending him the next batch of information from the manuals.
Keep an eye on post from AngryDog. I'm in the process of helping him out by providing technical info from the current manual on the TUSK. He is in the process of creating aftermarket sets that will fit on the AIM and SEP.
I just sent him a bunch of info and as soon as I can get a break, I will be sending him the next batch of information from the manuals.
CombatKrieg
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Posted: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:27 PM UTC
All TUSKed Abrams have the reactive side skirt armour?
USArmy2534
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Posted: Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 04:56 AM UTC
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All TUSKed Abrams have the reactive side skirt armour?
They should. If you notice the side skirts are considerably thinner than normal A1s and A2s.
Jeff
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Posted: Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 06:16 AM UTC
I believe he is not talking about the TUSK side skirts. The tanks were non-TUSK vehicles with Bradley ERA blocks on a frame at the front of each skirt. I believe it was 4 blocks per side over the second road wheel, basically where the driver sits. Of course I can't find the pics now either.
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