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ZippZiggy
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Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 03:13 PM UTC
Hello Guys,

I was wondering how you all create stone roads. Like you would find inside a town or city. I saw somewhere in these forums about someone using beans to simulate the stones. If anyone can find more information regarding this method, it would be great.

Thanks!

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Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 03:25 PM UTC
I belive you are refering to lentals. This is a simple technique, simply glue them down with white glue and use spackeling paste to fill in between them. Make sure you use dried lentals.

The only problem I have heard of with the lentals is that some bugs will eat them even with all the glue, paint and spackel on them.

I personaly use cork cut to size for cobble stone or scribe round stones in plaster.

Good luck!
ZippZiggy
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Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 03:34 PM UTC
Awesome, thanks for the quick reply. Im going to try both of the methods you suggested and see how it works out.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 04:14 PM UTC
how ya doing there zip ziggy, a good way to model cobblestones that looks very realistic is to get a large piece of meat packing styrofoam , the kind that you might get large quantities of chicken or beef in. usually about 8x12 inches. of course you must wash it thouroughly with soap and water and dry it also. cut the curved side sections off until you have a flat surface left. [save the curved parts , they make great walls and sloped stone areas] take a dull dart tip or pointed scribing instrument , and a straight edge. determine the size of the cobbles that you want and mark a series of parrallel lines . then make your perpendicular lines, like you are scribing a ladder. do this in one row. when you move over to the next row, slightly stagger the line, maybe by 1/3, or center the next line with the adjoining cobblestone. real cobblestones never line up they are often staggered to lock them in and prevent movement, like bricks. now the sheet will have a somewhat glossy film on it, so what you do is, 1, begin to randomly pick at the surface material with an exacto or scribing tool. then 2, take a dull pencil point and go back over the lines you scribed to give a some what rounded edge, wile pressing down onto the blocks at random to give a bumpy texture. the idea of peeling away some of the packing material is to make them look broken in some spots. to paint you must of course use acryls. as lacquer base will attack styro. oh, btw. a cobblestone in 1/35 is about 3/16 of an inch approx. in abou t 10 minutes you can have a very convincing looking street , good luck p.s. i got this tecnique from good friend and modeller extrordinaire paul e. keefe, it is not my own just sharing the wealth [email protected] [email protected]
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Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 04:38 PM UTC
Plastruct has sheets of it in various scales:
Plastruct Cobblestones
ZippZiggy
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Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 05:05 PM UTC
once again guys, thanks for all your help. jim arr, ill have a look in my stash of foam and see what i got. Thanks once again.

Ziggy
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Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 11:08 PM UTC
Here is a similar technique
Feature on roads

Good news bad news good news here are the text steps. Bad news - no photos
Step 1. This is the bag of the green lentils for the cobblestones. You can see the different colours of the lentils.

Step 2. First you cover the whole base, where the cobblestones street should be, with double sided sticky tape. Then you put the lentils on the tape, piece for piece.

Step 3. Fill the gaps between the lentils with fine soil. Carefully wipe away the surplus soil carefully your finger.

Step 4. Now you cover the whole base with hairspray. The hairspray drays relative quickly, so the lentils can't get really wet. When it is dry, repeat with a second coat of hairspray. Now the lentils and the soil are fixed.

Step 5. For the finished fixing, you spray a mixture of water and white-glue on the base. Finished is your cobblestones street.

Step 6. The Finished Product. Here you can see a picture of the cobblestones street on my finished diorama.
roudeleiw
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Posted: Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 03:39 AM UTC
hI,
How bout using cork?
Take a look over here
cork

Cheers
Claude
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Posted: Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 06:42 AM UTC
Drywall or plaster is allso an option - scroll down here:

https://archive.kitmaker.net/forums/117386&page=1
ZippZiggy
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Posted: Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 11:16 AM UTC
great! Thanks guys. With the lentils, would it be possible to simply lay down a layer of spackling paste, then just press the lentils into the spackling paste while its still wet, let it dry and paint?
c_benshoof
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Posted: Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 07:31 PM UTC
Yup that would work for ya too.
panzergoth
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Posted: Friday, May 02, 2008 - 02:53 AM UTC
hi, another good thing to fill the lentils is ceamic tile grout , avail. @ home depot. it comes in sanded and unsanded varieties , has an acrylic bonding agent already in it , and you can get lots of colors. you can add fine debris to it while wet liike stat. grass etc. and is specifically designed to clean up without pulling out of joints. being a tile contractor i have endless supplies oh and it makes great ground cover and mud on afvs as well as pigments. thats right ......migments, i mean pigments.
ZippZiggy
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Posted: Friday, May 02, 2008 - 03:00 AM UTC
Thanks for the great idea. I have a large tub of grout here, I might give it a go, for one of my walls. Should give the wall a nice texture.
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