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M36 Jackson, whitewashed WIP
patton76
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Posted: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 10:42 AM UTC
Today I did my second whitewash ever, and if I say so myself, I think it's looks a lot better than my first one, 10 years ago.

The Jackson is not yet finished, and the hull isn't glued, so you can still see a gap there. Detail painting hasn't been done, and the resin items I added to the turret haven't been painted either, it's still a WIP.

Let me know what you think regarding the whitewash.

THanks,

Dave

Here are the pics:















milvehfan
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Posted: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 10:50 AM UTC
Very Nice build so far, I like that whitewash, cannot wait to see it when finished. What brand figures are you useing for the crew ?
patton76
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Posted: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 10:55 AM UTC
I'll be using the Hobbyfan M36 figures. It's from the same set that the stowage on the turret is.

A review can be found here: http://usarmymodels.com/MANUFACTURERS/HobbyFan/hobbyfan572.html

I'm glad you liked the whitewash, wasn't sure how it would come out.

Dave
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Posted: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 02:48 PM UTC
I think you have done a very good job on the whitewash. Looking forward to seeing the end result.

Darryl
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Posted: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 02:52 PM UTC
I agree, the whitewash looks very good. Can you explain your technique?
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Posted: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 08:11 PM UTC
Well done Dave! I really like the whitewash, and think it will make a good base on which to add further weathering such as spills and streaks etc.
One little thing. The two worn OD areas on the right driver's hatch are a bit too uniform? Needs a scratch or two extra maybe... Ok one other thing. Could you maybe run a blade lightly around the front transmission housing star to cut off the extra silvered part? The OD would then completely surround the star and make it 'pop' a little more...
Great stuff
Brad
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 02:27 AM UTC

Quoted Text

I agree, the whitewash looks very good. Can you explain your technique?
Juggler



I used the hairspray technique for the whitewash.

I first painted the tank overall black, to get a preshading effect, off course the whitewash kind off killed that effect.

Then I sprayed the tank olive drab, making sure the edges of the panels were still a bit darker.

Then I did the detail painting of the tooling and tracks. I wasn't planning to make it a whitewash at first.

Then I gave it all a coat of future, and added the decals. I used micro sol on the decals afterwards. So I don't get why there is some silvering on the front star...

Then I received the hobby fan m36 tank crew and accessories, which I added to the turret.

Then I gave the whole tank a good coat of hairspray, and I must say that the hairspray made some fine streaks on the tanks. But since I was going to make it a whitewash, those streaks are gone now, but I may use this in the future on a not whitewash tank, I'm curious for the results.

Then I sprayed the whole tank white, and with some hot water and a brush attacked the hairspray which dissolved in certain places, to get the result I have now.

Actually it was very easy and I greatly like the result. I'm thinking of using the hairspray technique on non whitewash armour in the future. It's a really great and easy way to make chips.

Dave
patton76
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 02:30 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Well done Dave! I really like the whitewash, and think it will make a good base on which to add further weathering such as spills and streaks etc.
One little thing. The two worn OD areas on the right driver's hatch are a bit too uniform? Needs a scratch or two extra maybe... Ok one other thing. Could you maybe run a blade lightly around the front transmission housing star to cut off the extra silvered part? The OD would then completely surround the star and make it 'pop' a little more...
Great stuff
Brad



I'm glad you liked it!

Do you mean the two area's on the hatches, or just besides the hatches? Any other places you think I should add more streaks?

I know the front star has some silvering, I did use future and micro sol, which normally gives great results... Don't know how it comes this star has some silvering.

Thanks for the comments!

Dave
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 03:49 AM UTC
I think the whitr wash turned out really well. Thanks for the brief step-by-step it was usefull.
patton76
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 05:58 AM UTC

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I think the whitr wash turned out really well. Thanks for the brief step-by-step it was usefull.



Glad I could help and thanks for the comments.

Dave
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Posted: Friday, June 06, 2008 - 03:05 AM UTC
very nice. i like the whitewash..i'll try that on my next project. thanks for sharing.
tjkelly
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Posted: Monday, June 09, 2008 - 02:48 PM UTC
Nice job with the whitewash! Looks good on that M36, gotta love them tank destroyers!

Thanks for sharing the technique as well, learned a couple of things here reading it! Appreciate you sharing your photos.

Cheers -

Tim
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Posted: Monday, June 09, 2008 - 03:10 PM UTC
The whitewash looks very good. I'll have to try it sometime if I can get up the courage Bob
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Posted: Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 10:57 AM UTC
Dave-very nice wash. Only suggestion...maybe remove some of the wash from the top surfaces (top of barrel, manlett, turret, hull, tools, etc. ) were there is more traffic and exposure to the weather. Maybe the front of tank also. Just a thought. Is this the laundry detergent technique? White washes are a tricky technique and you are on the right track.
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Posted: Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 11:36 AM UTC
could some1 explain if amis used the same technique that jerries used or they were painting vehicles with white paint?;i'm kinda newbie...
it looks cool btw...
kemo
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Posted: Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 01:30 PM UTC
I know that the germans used anyhting they could get their hands on. Anyhting water-based so it washed off easily with rain or water when needed. Combinations of chalk to lime, to paint duluted with water, kerocine or even urine. It was applied with brushes, brooms, branches and even their hands. That is why some washes are very loose. Hope this helps.
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Posted: Friday, July 04, 2008 - 08:05 AM UTC
[quote
I know the front star has some silvering, I did use future and micro sol, which normally gives great results... Don't know how it comes this star has some silvering.

Thanks for the comments!

Dave[/quote]

its probally those sub-par academy decals...i had used them on my M12, and even after doing a future/white glue/ micro sol method (which normaly makes slivering impossible to happen), i had some slivering...plus the decals were so thick that you could see the edges...I ended up ripping them off and using stencils and painting the stars.

whitewash looks great....ill have to try that hairspray method soon. I wonder how it would work on other weather beaten tanks, say a german tank with mud or sand paint overspray?

I love how that M36 looks...after i do the M10, im going to find me one of these kits!
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