Can anyone shed some light ont his vehicle please, it is in current service as i saw 3 being driven in convoy on my loal roundabout.
from a distance thay looked like civvie mega buggy things.
close up.
looks a bit like the german styer 1500? witht he spare tyre suspended betwen the main wheels, i think it was either side. on top was a big ass roll cage. with a m.g mount (empty of course) it was sort of angled from the front and back and slightly curved at the middle. the wheels were big. like large truck wheels with super grip. no doors or anything just a frame. it was painted in a dark yellow similar to dark yellow of the taimya range.
no markings that i could see.
Any ideas or info. it looked pretty cool.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 09:49 AM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 10:02 AM UTC
What vehicle.There's no image.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 10:06 AM UTC
Was it like this?
It's an MWMIK just coming into service now. I suspect the marines have been using them down there. This is the blurb from the Defence Update site.
These highly mobile, off-road platforms are based on a Supacat design, offering superior cross-country mobility and flexible aerial deployment options. While the basic chassis is unarmored, but since MWMIK has larger payload capacity, compared to previous Land Rover based vehicles, it could be installed with add-on protection where required. The vehicle is powered by a Cummins diesel engine and an Allison transmission. The chassis will be built by Universal Engineering.
The vehicle is designed to be equipped with armor protection while maintaining full performance. Its top speed is 80 mph. Typical weapons which can be mounted on three pintle mounted gun mounts include .50 caliber machine gun, 7.62 machine guns and an automatic grenade. The vehicle carries up to three soldiers with their individual weapons. DML has also recently been awarded a separate contract for a number of MEP (Military Enhancement Program) vehicles. These are 6x6 load carrying all-terrain vehicles based on the same technology as MWMIK.
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It's an MWMIK just coming into service now. I suspect the marines have been using them down there. This is the blurb from the Defence Update site.
These highly mobile, off-road platforms are based on a Supacat design, offering superior cross-country mobility and flexible aerial deployment options. While the basic chassis is unarmored, but since MWMIK has larger payload capacity, compared to previous Land Rover based vehicles, it could be installed with add-on protection where required. The vehicle is powered by a Cummins diesel engine and an Allison transmission. The chassis will be built by Universal Engineering.
The vehicle is designed to be equipped with armor protection while maintaining full performance. Its top speed is 80 mph. Typical weapons which can be mounted on three pintle mounted gun mounts include .50 caliber machine gun, 7.62 machine guns and an automatic grenade. The vehicle carries up to three soldiers with their individual weapons. DML has also recently been awarded a separate contract for a number of MEP (Military Enhancement Program) vehicles. These are 6x6 load carrying all-terrain vehicles based on the same technology as MWMIK.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 10:14 AM UTC
Yeh thats what I was thinking Max. Its 'army' name is the Jackal, I posted a thread about it here There's a couple more pics and some links that may be of interest. HTH. Nick
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 12:13 PM UTC
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What vehicle.There's no image.
There was no picture i didnt state that there was a picture einstein. So its just been released i feel privaged to have seen new gear first hand. Yeah they are probably training them in the training ground in braunton close to rmb formerly raf chivenor. No kits on the way lol?
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 12:49 PM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 03:40 PM UTC
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Quoted TextWhat vehicle.There's no image.
There was no picture i didnt state that there was a picture einstein. So its just been released i feel privaged to have seen new gear first hand. Yeah they are probably training them in the training ground in braunton close to rmb formerly raf chivenor. No kits on the way lol?
Chill out dude.......no need to start something that quick
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 03:47 PM UTC
oooohh I want one...
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 04:42 PM UTC
I notice it says DML on the side, is this what Dragon gets up to in it's spare time? If so I hope they've got rid of the technical author who can't tell his left from his right when writing the instruction book! LOL
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 05:32 PM UTC
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I notice it says DML on the side, is this what Dragon gets up to in it's spare time? If so I hope they've got rid of the technical author who can't tell his left from his right when writing the instruction book! LOL
The Jackal is made by DML indeed !! (= Devonport Management Limited which is a Plymouth based company)
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 08:06 PM UTC
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Unfortunately I don't think so!! Although as a scratch build it could be relatively easy compared to some others! No kits on the way lol?
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 10:45 PM UTC
i hope our government don't opt for the cheaper ( unarmoured ) version !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 10:47 PM UTC
As a sidebar, DML (Devonport Management Limited) also build luxury yachts, repair trains and don't (as far as I can tell) employ any Noodle-Boys.
Of course, maybe what you saw was the latest exhibit for Cobbaton (it's pretty near Barnstaple!)
Of course, maybe what you saw was the latest exhibit for Cobbaton (it's pretty near Barnstaple!)
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 10:51 PM UTC
was headin the wrong way, more towards bideford than exeter. but i shall see on sunday! as my gf is taking me to cobbaton as a treat as my parents are going on holiday .
it would be greedy if they had 3!! i want one!
it would be greedy if they had 3!! i want one!
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 11:17 PM UTC
IMHO does not look like to much protection for anybody on board.
Again just my opinion.
Unless some kind of armor goes on that is not on it in the picture.
Again just my opinion.
Unless some kind of armor goes on that is not on it in the picture.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 11:32 PM UTC
apparently you can get add on armour cant see our government paying for it though !!!!!
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Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 12:35 AM UTC
The Jackals used in Afghanistan are fitted with some armor panels :
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Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 12:47 AM UTC
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apparently you can get add on armour cant see our government paying for it though !!!!!
Nope, well not atleast until its been in service for between 6 and 12 months and they realise that 'oh, actually maybe that add on armour may be quite useful'
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Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 12:54 AM UTC
On that subject perhaps the British Govt. could also explain the several hangars full of Chinooks which are undergoing a (delayed) SLEP?
Never mind, if you need a Chinook to go to a stag party and your surname is Windsor - no problem. If you need one for CASEVAC in Afghanistan, take a number and join the Q....
Never mind, if you need a Chinook to go to a stag party and your surname is Windsor - no problem. If you need one for CASEVAC in Afghanistan, take a number and join the Q....
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Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 01:04 AM UTC
The Chinook Mark 3s are getting whatever the opposite of a SLEP is as they're being reverted back to Mark 2, thanks to the MoD geniuses who set a totally idiotic spec for them. Boeing supplied them to the required spec and then the RAF found this was all very well, but they weren't actually able to carry out their intended SF role.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7434205.stm
Words fail me.....
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7434205.stm
Words fail me.....
David
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Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 01:08 AM UTC
still to me it seems like a half measure, why not a fully functioning armoured vehicle . as for the Chinooks , well !!!!! what can i say government planning at its best . maybe if all our guys in the Stan changed their names to Windsor they will stand a better chance of help when its needed .
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Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 04:25 AM UTC
my mums frined was a Helo test pilot and he never set fot in a chinnok as he called them death traps!
The hangar that they are kept in is AIR CONDITIONED what the hell. i dont have air con !!
The hangar that they are kept in is AIR CONDITIONED what the hell. i dont have air con !!
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Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 03:15 PM UTC
Hm, let me see... a helicopter that doesn't work in the rain... in the UK! The MOD obviously works along the same lines as the Old Bill, buy something half decent, frig around with it until it doesn't work, then issue it to the operational people! Same went for the SA80, it is quite nice when you go to war if your personal weapon works... BTW the army was fleetingly equipped with something very similar to an SA80 in 1954. Britains the toy manufacturer was so quick off the mark that they actually made figures carrying it (their Herald series). It was dropped when we standardised on the 7.62 NATO cartridge & got FN/SLRs instead. Did they know something back then...?
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Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 09:00 PM UTC
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BTW the army was fleetingly equipped with something very similar to an SA80 in 1954. Britains the toy manufacturer was so quick off the mark that they actually made figures carrying it (their Herald series). It was dropped when we standardised on the 7.62 NATO cartridge & got FN/SLRs instead. Did they know something back then...?
Sort of, the decision to standardise on 7.62 was strictly down to the Americans and the rest of NATO didn't have much choice in the matter. Then of course the US Army went to 5.56mm and you get the picture.
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Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 10:41 PM UTC
I was in the Territorial Army when the SA80 was introduced. What wasn't included (as should have been) was a roll of duct tape with every rifle. In a moderate breeze the amount of dust created was enough to jam it, bits fell off it (hence the duct tape) and they were seriously considering the M16 to replace the FN SLR. Total waste of plastic...
First of the British Army's weapons designed by Airfix...
First of the British Army's weapons designed by Airfix...