has anyone had experience with woodland scenics "EZ-water" ?
ifso, i have a question..
i wanted to make a dio with a small puddle on the edge of the base, how would i keep the "water" from running everywhere? does this make sense ?

i think you may need to partition the edge off, with a waterproof material. test it witth real water beforehand and if it is watertight go for it

thanks mate, but partition ? (lol dont understand this big word as im only 14 lol)

haha,
cheers man
Smithy

yuo need to make it so it dosent leak, if its on the edeg yu will need a material to containt he stuff. if its just a small puddle you may need to waterproof it first

yep, be very careful that there is nowhere for it to leak. If your water is in a hole in the center of the piece, you shouldn't have to worry about "partitioning" just make sure that everything is properly sealed, i.e. won't melt or get destroyed when it comes into contact with the resin.

If the water touches the edge of the base, make the edge watertight!! the goal is to keep the liquid resin from leaking all over the sides of the piece. It's not pretty, believe me, I've been there, done that, bought the t-shirt.

HI there,

Get some stiff clear plastic sheet ( such as from packaging or overhead transparencies) and tape it firmly to the edge of the base to form a wall where you want the puddle. Make it as tight as possible so there's minimal leaks.

Then pour in the EZ Water- this stuff can be difficult to use! Don't heat it up too much or it will be too runny or even melt the plastic barrier. Maybe trial it on a small scrap piece first!

My 2 experiences were just that, melted my jeep and completely drained away when moved before setting.
I switched to a product that is available at Wal-Mart, which simulates water in a vase for setting flowers.
There are also 5, 8, 15 and a few more minute epoxies. Haven’t had the chances to try these yet.
A lot of trial and error. It's good advice to try it with a little water first, if it doesn't leak go for it. Water is much cheaper then product.
Good luck,
Bob

Id say leave the EZ water alone and find an alternative , From personal experience id say its far from Easy to use. It needs to be very hot to melt the pellets and then when you pour it you get bubbles etc and need to use a heat gun to correct......... well that was the experience I had with the EZ water anyway .......maybe they should call it - Really Really Hard to use water -- NOT - - EZ water

ok thanks for the help guys,
in australia, well in NSW, the hobby shops seem to have 'restricted' scenery ?
my local hobby shop only sells 'grasses' and some 'dirts'..no water
i have to travel 3 hours to canberra to get EZ-water and it is about 30 dollars ...

from all your experiences it doesnt sound all that great.. i think ill just let this one be..

cheers for the help.
Smithy

Hi Will

If I want to make a water effect I use PVA glue as it dries clear.
When I made my Battleship Dio I put a layer of PVA glue over my base , when dry painted it and added another layer to seal it.
If you are doing a puddle you can add a little , let it dry , paint it a dark colour , add another layer of glue , paint a lighter colour etc and work it until you have your puddle effect

I use this method as the cost and access of materials can be annoying .

Hope this helps or gives you an idea

Steve C (Jnr)

PS my thread on my ship is here
http://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/99255#819875

Another drawback to "E Z water is,if you melt it to long and it gets too hot it turns yellow.I tried it twice but never again.

Bob Card,whats the stuff you get in Wal-Mart, called? Is it any good for larger area ,or just puddles?Thanks

It's called "LeSilk Shoppe Acrylic Water Kit" Its in the floral department and is used as a fake water in clear vases for floral arrangements. It's only an 8oz kit and since I'm getting into larger areas to fill (It took 5 kits to do the last photo) I'm going to try another one called "Envirotex Lite" Pour on High gloss finish, 32 oz kit.

Here are my attemps at water using the Acrylic water;
Puddle

Small Beach

Small stream


And on a reef


Easy to use but doesn't cover much, you have to fake the depth, or use a bunch.
On the new stuff I'm going to go for the full depth of the diorama and not cut off the model bottom.

The Wal-Mart stuff is aroung $5 for a kit.
Hope this helps,
Bob

Thanks for the info ,Bob

thanks bob, very helpful, but there is no Wal-marts in australia

Hi
You could consider the "Water" products from Vallejo. I have their paints and if they are anything to go by then the water products should be very good.

I should imagine the paints being fairly widespread then it should be easy enough to pick up the water products, even down under.

Details on their web site or try Googling. Still water is the name of one of them. From the description no mixing or heating required just use straight from the container.

Alan

Really? I thought those things were everywhere!

I'll try to find someplace on the web for you that sells them.
Bob

Wow! that'd be great!

cheers!

Will Wal mart has a web site,i tried looking for you ,but couldnt find the acrylic water.Try wal mart.com

Being that I'm no great fan of Walmart, I searched and found this which is exactly the same and is 3 times the size and looks to be even on sale!

http://store.qualitysilkplants.com/mc32012.html

I think I even have to try a couple of these.

Good luck on your project,
Bob