Hello,
I've posted the same question over at HF, but I'm not sure how many people actually goes there. So I will try here at AA as well, if you don't mind...
I'm working on the DML Winter Grenadiers set (6372) and I've run into 2 problems with the proper Y-webbing setup.
1) How was the canteen and the mess tin attached to the belt? Looking at various pictures it seems to me, that they were actually attached to the bread bag, not to the belt or webbing itself. Is that correct observation?
2) The instruction set shows all figures with unfolding/straight entrenching tool that has a bayonet frog attached to it.
The kit however provides only the folding entrenching tool.
How was the bayonet attached in this case? I guess it would just be elsewhere on the belt, not attached to the e-tool carrier at all?
Thanks in advance, any help is much appreciated...
-Alesh-
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Galwitz
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Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 04:57 AM UTC
yeahwiggie
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Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 08:05 AM UTC
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1) How was the canteen and the mess tin attached to the belt? Looking at various pictures it seems to me, that they were actually attached to the bread bag, not to the belt or webbing itself. Is that correct observation?
Yes, that's correct. The breadbag has 2 loops on it, to which the tin and canteen were attached.
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2) The instruction set shows all figures with unfolding/straight entrenching tool that has a bayonet frog attached to it.
The kit however provides only the folding entrenching tool.
How was the bayonet attached in this case? I guess it would just be elsewhere on the belt, not attached to the e-tool carrier at all?
iAs you mentioned these are 2 different kinds of entrenching tools. The first has a fixed blade, over which a leather hood was placed. It has 2 loops attached to the waistbelt and the bajonet has 1 loop which goes in between the other 2. Then the bajonet is fastened to the entrenching tool with a small leather strap.
The second tool is completely different, because it is foldable and has a very different carryingsystem. In this case the bajonet was carried separately.
Hope this helps
RonV
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Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 10:33 AM UTC
Ales,
Check out this site for some answers to your queries. It shows just what Ron has correctly explained.
Either type of shovel would have been correct for the period.
http://www.mp44.nl/equipment.htm
Cheers,
Ron V
Check out this site for some answers to your queries. It shows just what Ron has correctly explained.
Either type of shovel would have been correct for the period.
http://www.mp44.nl/equipment.htm
Cheers,
Ron V
Galwitz
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Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 03:53 PM UTC
Ron and Ron, thanks a lot to both of you. Your info helps me a lot and the link provided is a great reference.
samkidd
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Posted: Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 10:28 AM UTC
Thanks for the incredible link Ron! I'm trying to scratchbuild some 1/24 figures (to be cast for use with Hasagawa's 1/24 Kubelwagen) and this site really, really helps! Thanks for sharing such a great find!
Jim
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