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North Africa / DAK uniforms vs Regular
ToMuchGlue
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Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 11:19 AM UTC
I am trying to find figures for a few Dioramas I have planned but am unsure if I can use anything other than specific DAK kits. Did soldiers in North Africa wear the same uniforms as in Europe? Did they dye them a different color (tan or Khaki)? I have seen DAK in shorts but it seem there are allot more choices for figures that are not specific to North Africa.

I guess what I am asking is can I paint a non DAK uniformed soldier in DAK colors or would a soldier in North Africa wear a field grey uniform? I want to be somewhat accurate in painting my figures. I had painted a morotcycle rider (from Tamyia Orderly set) and then was told:


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The jacket of the motorcycle rider is actually a camouflage smock so should probably have one of the many WH or SS camouflages on it.



You can see my work here:
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/122677&page=1

Anyway thanks in advance for the info.

Kevin
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Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 12:15 PM UTC

Quoted Text

I am trying to find figures for a few Dioramas I have planned but am unsure if I can use anything other than specific DAK kits. Did soldiers in North Africa wear the same uniforms as in Europe? Did they dye them a different color (tan or Khaki)? I have seen DAK in shorts but it seem there are allot more choices for figures that are not specific to North Africa.

I guess what I am asking is can I paint a non DAK uniformed soldier in DAK colors or would a soldier in North Africa wear a field grey uniform? I want to be somewhat accurate in painting my figures. I had painted a morotcycle rider (from Tamyia Orderly set) and then was told:


Quoted Text

The jacket of the motorcycle rider is actually a camouflage smock so should probably have one of the many WH or SS camouflages on it.



You can see my work here:
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/122677&page=1

Anyway thanks in advance for the info.

Kevin



Hey Kevin,
This site may be of some help:

http://www.AFRIKAKORPS.org/

Unlike the poor bastards on the Eastern Front in 1941-42, the DAK troops were issued theater appropriate uniforms.
While most photos show troops wearing tropical uniforms, some soldiers were photographed wearing European kit, i.e. wool greatcoats, in cool weather or night time when temperatures in the desert dropped.
While not commonly worn, camouflage smocks were worn by elite units like the Hermann Goring Division or paratroop units.
Osprey's "Afrika Korps 1941-43" is a good source of photos and colour prints of typical uniform types.
Cheers

jjumbo
ToMuchGlue
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Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 12:25 PM UTC
jjumbo:

Thanks for the link. Lots of info I hadn't found yet. Mostly I have depended on the box art for color.

Thanks again.

Kevin
ToMuchGlue
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Posted: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 06:25 AM UTC
Ok... I am still wondering if I took say this set of figures: https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/122574&page=1

Could I paint these in DAK colors?

I really appreciate the help.

Kevin
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Posted: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 06:41 AM UTC
I would say that set would need a certain amount of modfication, such as the boots.

Have you consider the Dragon 6063 kit?, a little old but very reliable.

Cheers.

Pablo
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Posted: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 06:44 AM UTC
Kevin

If I remember correctly one thing different would be the boots. DAK boots had I think the leather straps that buckled and either covered the laces and.or helped to keep the trousers
in the boot perhaps to help with preventing sand from getting in the boots. I think this is correct but please someone correct me if not. Good luck
ToMuchGlue
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Posted: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 07:06 AM UTC

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I would say that set would need a certain amount of modfication, such as the boots.

Have you consider the Dragon 6063 kit?, a little old but very reliable.

Cheers.

Pablo



I just ordered these. Funny you mentioned them. It is just that I liked the poses in the MiniArt set.

Thanks for the replys.

Kevin
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Posted: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 08:14 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Kevin

If I remember correctly one thing different would be the boots. DAK boots had I think the leather straps that buckled and either covered the laces and.or helped to keep the trousers
in the boot perhaps to help with preventing sand from getting in the boots. I think this is correct but please someone correct me if not. Good luck



I'm not aware of any DAK issue boots with any form of leather strap or buckle.

I've only ever seen these...


and these..



During my Googling, I found these...

But according to the website, they are Luftwaffe tropical boots, and IMHO unlikely to have ended up on the feet of an 'umble Landser.

HTH

acav out
ToMuchGlue
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Posted: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 12:09 PM UTC
Other than the boots, everything else would work?

Is it possible to get just the boots/feet like you can hands and heads? I think I will order the set and see if I can amputate / reattach from some of the other DAK figures I have.

Thanks for all the help.

Kevin
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Posted: Friday, August 01, 2008 - 02:12 PM UTC
While we are on the subject of Afrikakorps, What type of rank insignia would the tankers have worn. The pink pipping did not come into use. So what color was the pipping, if any was used at all?
acav
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Posted: Friday, August 01, 2008 - 03:07 PM UTC
Surely, DAK Panzer units still wore pink (rosa) Waffenfarbe, but just restricted to the lines in the centre of the Litzen on their collars.

This photo shows what I mean...



Note that there is also pink Waffenfarbe on the shoulder straps.
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