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BRDM-3 AT-5 FAGOT
Mudid68
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Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 10:32 AM UTC
Hello,
I would like to know which countries used the BRDM-3 AT-5 FAGOT. All information welcomed.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 10:43 AM UTC
I have never heard of the BRDM-3 what is diffrent between it and the BRDM-2?
Mudid68
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Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 06:46 PM UTC
In fact BRDM-3 is the name given by Verlinden or Dragon. You can get more information about this vehicle, which is in fact a BRDM-2, here :http://www.warwheels.net/BRDM2_ATGM9P148index.html

But nothing about countries which used it.
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Mudid68
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Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 08:39 PM UTC
Thanks. I read somewhere that only 6 countries used the BRDM AT5 Fagot. If we take into account Poland and Russia, there are only 4 other countries to find.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 01:44 AM UTC
Some info on a post , and links to pics.

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/122440&page=1

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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 06:15 AM UTC
Fagot is the Russian name for the Spandrel in the NATO denomination.
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Posted: Monday, August 25, 2008 - 06:48 AM UTC

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Fagot is the Russian name for the Spandrel in the NATO denomination.



Just to clarify couple of things.
BRDM-2 9P148 "Konkurs" - ATGM launcher vehicle with 5 wire-guided 9M113 "Konkurs" (AT-5 Spandrel). The AT-5 launcher can also fire the 9M111 "Fagot" (AT-4 Spigot) missile. The early production model of 9P148 could only fire 9M113 "Konkurs". The 9P148 can carry a total of 10 9M111 and 10 9M113 or 14 9M113. From 1996 some Russian 9P148 were fitted with an improved 1PN66 day/night thermal sight. In the West, it was also known under the incorrect designation BRDM-3.

The actual word "FAGOT" (accent on "O", not on "A") is the russian word "ФАГОТ" - musical instrument, in english - "bassoon".
bison126
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Posted: Monday, August 25, 2008 - 07:35 PM UTC

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Just to clarify couple of things.
BRDM-2 9P148 "Konkurs" - ATGM launcher vehicle with 5 wire-guided 9M113 "Konkurs" (AT-5 Spandrel). The AT-5 launcher can also fire the 9M111 "Fagot" (AT-4 Spigot) missile. The early production model of 9P148 could only fire 9M113 "Konkurs". The 9P148 can carry a total of 10 9M111 and 10 9M113 or 14 9M113. From 1996 some Russian 9P148 were fitted with an improved 1PN66 day/night thermal sight. In the West, it was also known under the incorrect designation BRDM-3.

The actual word "FAGOT" (accent on "O", not on "A") is the russian word "ФАГОТ" - musical instrument, in english - "bassoon".



You're absolutely right. I typed too quick without checking.
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Posted: Monday, August 25, 2008 - 07:50 PM UTC
Thank you for all your answers. And as regards users, do you have more information ?
Minsk94
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Posted: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 04:03 AM UTC

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Thank you for all your answers. And as regards users, do you have more information ?



You need more info? I am not trying to be rude, but did you even try to do a simple web search? Go to Google, and you will find lots of information and images about BRDMs.
Mudid68
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Posted: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 04:26 AM UTC
Already done but nothing about used of this type of BRDM. It is the reason why I launched this topic here !
Minsk94
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Posted: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 04:34 AM UTC

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Already done but nothing about used of this type of BRDM. It is the reason why I launched this topic here !



Well, maybe you can try the forum I belong to - http://scalemodels.ru. It is probably the biggest Russian language modeling forum. Very easy to navigate. On the top two bottons to translate into English and German (whichever you preffer). The good part - if you ask question there, you might find people, who actually have personal experience with BRDM, and not just from books and the internet. You can post your question in English too.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 05:11 AM UTC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRDM-2#Variants

Some info on variants and operators
Mudid68
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Posted: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 06:08 AM UTC

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Already done but nothing about used of this type of BRDM. It is the reason why I launched this topic here !



Well, maybe you can try the forum I belong to - http://scalemodels.ru. It is probably the biggest Russian language modeling forum. Very easy to navigate. On the top two bottons to translate into English and German (whichever you preffer). The good part - if you ask question there, you might find people, who actually have personal experience with BRDM, and not just from books and the internet. You can post your question in English too.



Thank you very much. Unfortunately I can not register !!!! There's always an "error" message
Minsk94
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Posted: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 11:30 AM UTC
When and how did you get an error message? And what kind of an error? I can contact administrators of the site, but I need to tell them exactly what went wrong.
Mudid68
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Posted: Friday, August 29, 2008 - 05:32 AM UTC
I have "This e-mail has already been registered" !!!
I tried with 2 different e-mail and it is always the same thing.
Alex Z do you agree to post my question on this russian site and to come back here if there is any answer ?
Thanks in advance
Minsk94
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Posted: Friday, August 29, 2008 - 05:39 AM UTC
Sure, I can do that. But can you make your question more specific? The original post is very general...
Mudid68
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Posted: Friday, August 29, 2008 - 05:48 AM UTC
Well, I bought the Verlinden (Trophy models) BRDM-3 "Fagot" and I would like to know if this AFV was used by Syria or Iraq.
Thank you in advance Alex.
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Posted: Friday, August 29, 2008 - 06:40 AM UTC

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Well, I bought the Verlinden (Trophy models) BRDM-3 "Fagot" and I would like to know if this AFV was used by Syria or Iraq.
Thank you in advance Alex.
Didier



I did. Your topic is here:
http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_p_85566.html
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Posted: Friday, August 29, 2008 - 06:44 AM UTC
Thank you very much Alex.
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