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SPLASH : Caf'é "Les Trois Diables"
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2003 - 02:34 AM UTC
Though a bit late, here are the pictures of the results of my dio until today. The dio shows a small café's terrace with a fountain. The diorama name is "café Les Trois Diables" (the three devils), named after the three gargoyles spitting water into the fountain.
Since my first attempt to this diorama had a nasty accident, I completely remade it.
For the base, I mangled a Monroe Perdu, adding a fountain and walls.
The walls were 'scribled" in a piece of plaster, using a steel ruler, an X-acto knife and a scribling tool I bought from micromark. I then made a silicone mold and cast plaster copies. (for more details on making molds, see my "xeroxing ammo boxes" article in the features pages, under "general modeling). The cast was made in a tough ceramic plaster, which can be made almost as liquid as plaster before casting.
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The top of the wall and the top of the fountain rim, was first made from plastic. A piece of half round sprue was sanded till it became a half circle diameter. Then it was glued to a piece of plastic stripe, barely wider than the sprue. The edges were a bit sanded. I made a silicone mold from this, and casted plaster copies. The plaster copies look more "real" stone than the plastic original. They can be easily sanded, broken, dented and treated like real pieces of stone and maconry. I'm happy with the result.
The water was first filled with plaster (BIG MISTAKE ! I'll explain why hereunder). On top of the water came layers of paint, later mixed with clear coating. The top coating is only coating without paint. The procedure was described in other Splash dios, and I think it was Keenan who convinced me to work this procedure after showing his superb example.
The water jets that are "spit" from the devils-heads gargoyles, are clear plastic fibre. I drilled a small hole in the gargoyles, a small hole in the fountain "water" and added a small drop of CA glue. In the water, I added several consecutive smaller drops of CA glue to give the impression the water is stirred up where the jet splashes down. The CA glue, drying faster than the still-a-bit-wet acrylate coating, turns white and looks very convincing. To top it all off, I added a very thin layer of clear poly-urethane.
The combination of a clear PU top over plaster, is a wrong choice. The plaster still holds water molecules that evaporate and try to get out. Now they are trapped by the PU top, they form small air bubbles under the surface. Though the surface looked very good first, it now starts to get a bit bubbly. See picture below :
The terrace is supposed to be filled with tables and chairs, but that's not done yet. I'm not happy with the earth coloured sand at this moment either, so I hoped to redo that before I discovered the end date for this dio was 15/5 instead of 31/5 as I thought it was !
I still have to paint my figures, too. I converted them yesterday, but I'm not sure I'll get time to do that in the coming weeks. I have a huge load of office work, and other domestic things to take care of first.
About the total result ? I think a friend put it very kindly : "you make fine dioramas and you"re a great scratchbuilder, but you're a lousy painter". I can live with that - for now.
Sorry to be so late with these pics. The result isn't all done, but I liked to share it with you - even if it isn't finished and even if the new Monroe Perdu ground base will outprice the diorama limits if I use resin figures.
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2003 - 04:34 AM UTC
Jan,
sorry you had to rebuild part of it cause of that mishap.....the result is smashing though !!!
I very much like the way you painted the walls and the street !!
Excellent ! I would love to see finished dio !
Danny
sorry you had to rebuild part of it cause of that mishap.....the result is smashing though !!!
I very much like the way you painted the walls and the street !!
Excellent ! I would love to see finished dio !
Danny
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2003 - 04:42 AM UTC
Nice! I even like the paint job!!
The base came out great, nice casting there. The water is really nice, I like the ripples. They came out well.
Can't wait to see the end result.
The base came out great, nice casting there. The water is really nice, I like the ripples. They came out well.
Can't wait to see the end result.
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2003 - 04:49 AM UTC
I would love to take the credit but I don't think it was my example... Yours looks outstanding. Things worked out "well" if you'll pardon the pun...
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2003 - 05:02 AM UTC
Jan,
Do yourself and us a favor and finish it ASAP, I love what you did with the layout.
When finished you should make a feature out of it, I know that I will read it and store it for future references
Tnx for inspiring us
Do yourself and us a favor and finish it ASAP, I love what you did with the layout.
When finished you should make a feature out of it, I know that I will read it and store it for future references
Tnx for inspiring us
Dmd
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2003 - 05:13 AM UTC
hoi
prachtig werk !!! echt een pareltje !!
mooi zo
groetjes
dmd
prachtig werk !!! echt een pareltje !!
mooi zo
groetjes
dmd
scoccia
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2003 - 05:45 AM UTC
It look great!!! What a pity the bubbles in the fountain... unfortunately it happens. Very nice paintjob!!!
Ciao
Ciao
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2003 - 10:41 AM UTC
Jan,
Beautiful job so far. I say since most of us did not finish on time anyway, forget the budget and go with the resin figures. That beautiful base needs to be finished!
Patrick
Beautiful job so far. I say since most of us did not finish on time anyway, forget the budget and go with the resin figures. That beautiful base needs to be finished!
Patrick
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2003 - 11:24 AM UTC
Jan, great job! I absolutely love the fountain and can't stop looking at it. Please finish it and post pictures.
Posted: Monday, May 19, 2003 - 07:07 PM UTC
Yup Jan
That`s a real pittty of those airbubbles in your fountain.. It looks really stunning though. I too want to see this thing finished as the whole groundwork is really stunning. Those terrace tables are they homemade?? or did you buy them.
I want to see the figs too man. Maybe because the dio is not longer for the campaign you could add some moe figures and make the terrace more crowdy but that`s just a guess
Looking good and I can`t wait to see it finished
That`s a real pittty of those airbubbles in your fountain.. It looks really stunning though. I too want to see this thing finished as the whole groundwork is really stunning. Those terrace tables are they homemade?? or did you buy them.
I want to see the figs too man. Maybe because the dio is not longer for the campaign you could add some moe figures and make the terrace more crowdy but that`s just a guess
Looking good and I can`t wait to see it finished
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 12:37 AM UTC
Thanks for the kind words, fellas. I had planned to shelve the dio and forget about completing it, but your encouragement may still change my mood.
I like the idea : leave the campaign and continue the diorama in a new life : put some more figures in the terrace, redo the water, maybe add a front for the café on the right side of the diorama... ? We'll see. I don't have time to work on it very soon, but this gives me time to think it all over...
Jan
I like the idea : leave the campaign and continue the diorama in a new life : put some more figures in the terrace, redo the water, maybe add a front for the café on the right side of the diorama... ? We'll see. I don't have time to work on it very soon, but this gives me time to think it all over...
Jan
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 07:39 AM UTC
Thats a very interesting post there, Jan.
Ill guess we all learnt a lot from it. Just make sure youll finnish it.
That could be a nice piece. Why dont you just paint over the bubble water with a suitable colour and add more clear varnish?
Ill guess we all learnt a lot from it. Just make sure youll finnish it.
That could be a nice piece. Why dont you just paint over the bubble water with a suitable colour and add more clear varnish?
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 02:54 PM UTC
Very cool, can't wait to see it finished. I really like the gargoyle heads and the water streams look awsome coming out of them. The little air bubbles remind me of rain drops hitting the water, maybe you can make it a rainy day there
Chris
Chris
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:39 AM UTC
Maybe that's not such a bad idea, Chris.
I already considered placing waterlillies in the pond to mask the bubbles effect. But the number of bubbles increased daily, and now it looks like a fountain of schhhhhweppes !!!
The only solution is to rip of the top layer and start the paint job all over again, I'm affraid. And I really don't feel like starting to do that, just now. Let me sit on this for a few days, maybe a new idea will spark.
I already considered placing waterlillies in the pond to mask the bubbles effect. But the number of bubbles increased daily, and now it looks like a fountain of schhhhhweppes !!!
The only solution is to rip of the top layer and start the paint job all over again, I'm affraid. And I really don't feel like starting to do that, just now. Let me sit on this for a few days, maybe a new idea will spark.
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 10:28 AM UTC
I like this scene. Looks quiet and I can almost hear the water splashing in the pool.
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 10:57 AM UTC
Yeah Jan.... kinda makes me feel like I should make a trip to the 'loo'.
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 02:45 PM UTC
Gotta admit - the water looks so nice I feel like taking a wiz everytime I look at it.
I have a similar quandry... the dio I planned uses some rare pieces... I actually hate to limit the diorama just for the contest, so what I decided to do was complete the diorama to conform to the contest, then add additional work once the photos are taken ... in this way, I have the final dio i want, while at the same time, I have something for the campaign. My finished version would be WAY over budget (around $100-$120!) so i will hold off on some resin figures that are just dying to be part of the scene...
Also a reminder... we extended the official deadline until May 30 for submission of photos... the extra two weeks might give you enough time to complete the scene in time for the campaign!
I have a similar quandry... the dio I planned uses some rare pieces... I actually hate to limit the diorama just for the contest, so what I decided to do was complete the diorama to conform to the contest, then add additional work once the photos are taken ... in this way, I have the final dio i want, while at the same time, I have something for the campaign. My finished version would be WAY over budget (around $100-$120!) so i will hold off on some resin figures that are just dying to be part of the scene...
Also a reminder... we extended the official deadline until May 30 for submission of photos... the extra two weeks might give you enough time to complete the scene in time for the campaign!
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 07:34 PM UTC
Jan,
A question, did you make the gargoyles yourself?
A question, did you make the gargoyles yourself?
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Posted: Friday, May 23, 2003 - 08:18 AM UTC
About the gargoyles...
A long time ago, my wife bought a small piece of wood sculpture when she lived in Hong Kong. I was thinking about gargoyles for my fountain and in fact I was looking for a lion's head when my eye caught the sculpture. So all I did was make a silicone mold of this small devilish-looking head and cast me a few resin copies. I drilled a hole in the mouth to insert the water ...et voilà.
A long time ago, my wife bought a small piece of wood sculpture when she lived in Hong Kong. I was thinking about gargoyles for my fountain and in fact I was looking for a lion's head when my eye caught the sculpture. So all I did was make a silicone mold of this small devilish-looking head and cast me a few resin copies. I drilled a hole in the mouth to insert the water ...et voilà.