Brazilian National Day - Armor Pics (Army)
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Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 06:30 AM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 07:17 AM UTC
Cool pic's! I had one question whats with the anchors on the m 113?
Cheers Alex!
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Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 07:55 AM UTC
Nice photo's! I guess the Brazillian army bought alot of old stuff from the U.S. army.
Lars

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Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 08:28 AM UTC
Great pix. I sure like the LandRovers! Looks like a fun day in Brazil.
Cheers,
Charles
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Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 08:29 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Nice photo's! I guess the Brazillian army bought alot of old stuff from the U.S. army.
Lars
Hi Lars! In fact, they were brand new when bought

:):) But the time has passed

You also can see new stuff there, like the Land Rovers, the 120mm mortars, the Mercedes-Benz trucks etc.
Bye,
Marcelo
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Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 08:32 AM UTC
Great pics, Marcelo! The Land Rovers look to be very well maintained! Even the sidewalls are shiny!
I am really intrigued by the M60 pic. Is that an A1? Seems like it, given the lack of smoke launchers (although the one behind it has the launchers). Also, if you look closely, the track to the left of the picture is missing two rubber shoes, and one of the roadwheels also has a chunk of rubber missing. Good details for reference.
Oh, and why does that odd M113 with the "anchors" on the side have strange-looking sprockets that require cut-outs in the side skirts? Anybody know?
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Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 08:35 AM UTC
Eh. Not realistic. Not chipped enough.
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Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 08:55 AM UTC
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Great pics, Marcelo! The Land Rovers look to be very well maintained! Even the sidewalls are shiny!
I am really intrigued by the M60 pic. Is that an A1? Seems like it, given the lack of smoke launchers (although the one behind it has the launchers). Also, if you look closely, the track to the left of the picture is missing two rubber shoes, and one of the roadwheels also has a chunk of rubber missing. Good details for reference.
Oh, and why does that odd M113 with the "anchors" on the side have strange-looking sprockets that require cut-outs in the side skirts? Anybody know?
Hi Lucas!
Our M-60 are former M-60A3 TTS and yes, the lack of ruber is realy intereting

Note the NATO camo still being used (very fadded).
About the M113, I´m also without any clue... I had already seen this before, I´m not sure if American in Vietnam or not, bur looks like that the sprockets are prepared to receive the rolls that are attached to the side and the rolls can strech steel cables, maybe trough small water streams and the anchors are for this purpose too... But I´m just guessing. If anybody could answer...

Bye,
Marcelo
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Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 08:58 AM UTC
could it be some kind of ground anchor which is used when there is no tree or rock to connect a winch too??????
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Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 09:12 AM UTC
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Eh. Not realistic. Not chipped enough.
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hahah thats exactly what i was thinking hahah .. kudos friend
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Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 12:50 PM UTC
Interesting photos Marcelo, thanks for posting them.
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Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 09:19 PM UTC
Oh, and why does that odd M113 with the "anchors" on the side have strange-looking sprockets that require cut-outs in the side skirts? Anybody know?

[/quote]They are a self recovery kit. The sprokets on the side of the vehicle are attached to the front sprokets, the anchors are placed in the ground (hopefully on a dry spot) and ropes are run from the anchors and wound around the sprokets. The tracks spin, the sprokets become winches and the vehicle pulls itself out of the mud. I read about the kit in Hunnicutt's Bradley book. Does anyone know if the Kit was ever used by the U.S. Army?
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Posted: Monday, September 08, 2008 - 08:50 AM UTC
Great photos, thank you!
Love those M108s.
Cheers,
Christophe
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Posted: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 10:36 AM UTC
Hallo, Marcelo,
nice pictures but do Brazilian Forces no longer use Leopard A1?
I'm missing pictures . Who sold the Leopards to Brazil?
Can you help with these questions?
Thanks ion advance!
Harald
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Posted: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 11:25 AM UTC
Hi Harald!!
Yes, we still have Leopard 1, but not here at my city. I´m not sure were they are based, but I think they are in Rio de Janeiro. The Leopard 1s were boght from the Netherlands, if I´m not wrong again

I confess I never liked this vehicle, so I never knew many about them

Bye,
Marcelo
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Posted: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 11:57 AM UTC
Guys,
The M60's are former National Guard tanks from Ft. Drum, NY (M60A3's). Potentially, that makes them NJ army National Guard vehicles (I saw the shipping paperwork off one of the vehicles)(my home state). Anyway, that's a great parade. When I was in Brasil 2 years ago, the parade in Brasilia was nice (I watched it on TV while in Sao Paulo), but only included one M60A3, and a couple of cascavels and urutu's. Definitely neato vehicles. Is the Brasilian Army still using Leopards, or have they been retired?
Regards,
Georg

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Posted: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 02:02 PM UTC
Marcelo,
thanks for the answer though I do not understand your judgement about Leopard. Can you explain WHAT you did/do not like ?
That really would be interesting to me as you are the first I meet who said that.
Cheers
Harald
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Posted: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 02:48 PM UTC
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Guys,
Is the Brasilian Army still using Leopards, or have they been retired?
Regards,
Georg 
Yes, Georg, Brazilian Army still use them. You can see pics of them here, took by other modeler, also took last September, 7th, but in Rio de Janeiro:
Leo and M-60 There are M-60A3 too.
Bye,
Marcelo
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Posted: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 02:52 PM UTC
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Marcelo,
thanks for the answer though I do not understand your judgement about Leopard. Can you explain WHAT you did/do not like ?
That really would be interesting to me as you are the first I meet who said that.
Cheers
Harald
Hi Harald!
Hehehe, scuse me if I was rude, but I don´t know why I dislike the Leopard 1... maybe the design, I´m not sure... but definetly it´s not about all Leopard family! I realy love the most modern ones, like Lopard 2 series etc.
Bye,
Marcelo
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Posted: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 03:07 PM UTC
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Very cool pics. Thanks for posting them. Brazilian vehicles are something you certainly don't see often (unless you live in Brazil). By the way, I love the Cascavel and Urutu. I would love to see someone produce plastic kits of them someday. But I know it's a long shot.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 03:54 PM UTC
very nice...the M113 with anchors looks kind of unique..was it a recovery vehicle or for amphibious operation. thanks for sharing.
hey...check out the pedestrian sign..nice.

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Posted: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 11:06 PM UTC
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Oh, and why does that odd M113 with the "anchors" on the side have strange-looking sprockets that require cut-outs in the side skirts? Anybody know?
They are a self recovery kit. The sprokets on the side of the vehicle are attached to the front sprokets, the anchors are placed in the ground (hopefully on a dry spot) and ropes are run from the anchors and wound around the sprokets. The tracks spin, the sprokets become winches and the vehicle pulls itself out of the mud. I read about the kit in Hunnicutt's Bradley book. Does anyone know if the Kit was ever used by the U.S. Army?[/quote]
and here is a link to the maintenance manual :-)
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Posted: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 01:42 AM UTC
Cool pictures. Interesting info on the M113. I had never heard about that system before.
Thanks for sharing
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