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mogadishu, somalia-1993
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 03:38 PM UTC
ever since i read the book, and then saw the movie of black hawk down, i have really wanted to do a big, VERY BIG dio of operation restore hope, and the events that take place in the movie, now i have the money, the item numbers for the us forces i need for it (being the new tamiya hummers, the dragon AH-6J little bird, and i already have the academy blackhawk, all of these being 1:35) but how the hell do i get the somali's, i cannot find on the net, and the hobby shop isnt all that helpful, any african looking militia, pleeeeease help, also, does anyone have any good pis of the builidng and houses in mogadishu, i have the movie as a reference, and a few pics, but i need something good and clear, i tried sketching the buildings while watching the movie but i end up watching the movie and not sketching, pleeeeeeeeese help me
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 05:42 PM UTC
No one? lol, well if anyone can help please do
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 06:51 PM UTC
This topic has been here not so long ago and basically the answer is ..... you will have to modify figures to look like skinnies. Im sure its possible to do by cutting away all the military detail of figues and with the aid of some milliput or magic sculpt....... turn them into skinnies. there are a few tamiya kits that the figures look too thin for their scale, that would be suitable. maybe check up that thread, as i cant remember what was talked about now.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 06:53 PM UTC
Hello,

I thought that I knew of a couple of different sources that may help, but I ended up with only one. Warriors has 3 new African sets, unfortunately only one is a "militia man", but maybe with a little creativity (and a razor saw!) you can get the other ones to work for you.

here are the urls:
https://www.modelmecca.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?go=Search&partnumber=WA%2035500
https://www.modelmecca.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?go=Search&partnumber=WA%2035505
https://www.modelmecca.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl?go=Search&partnumber=WA%2035507
I like the guy with the shades, very cool.

Hope this helps a little,
Chris
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 11:00 PM UTC
thnaks for that ctmi911, the only one that would be good is the militia man, but what currency is that, if its yankee dollars its be around $24 here! do u know of ANY others that might come with a few militia, or just african army troops
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 11:29 PM UTC
I am afraid you have to convert most figures yourself (a good opportunity to aquire a new skill maybe ?). Here is a link from someone who makes many of his own figures... converting/making your own figures The sit is down at the moement, I hope it gets back up soon... If it does not, then I'll try to find out what is wrong (as I know the owner from another board).
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 11:29 PM UTC
Im doing the same diorama and i been searching for militia, the nearest i can get is an afghan militia. the page ishttp://www.internethobbies.com/internethobbies/icm135ussola.html


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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 01:58 AM UTC
if you have the dvd of black hawek down it shows you how they built all of the buldings and has drawings of them, so just pause it and trace them off the tv
ctmi911
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 05:34 AM UTC
Ouch! Yes you are correct, according to XE.com, this is what the total would be.

12.95 USD United States Dollars = 22.1910 NZD New Zealand Dollars
1 USD = 1.71359 NZD 1 NZD = 0.583570 USD

I'll keep looking, but thats all I can think of for now.

Cheers,
Chris
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 08:04 AM UTC
Whatever happened to your really big D-Day dio you were gonna work on there Lest?
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 09:33 AM UTC
hi,
cant remember the site, ive seen it on a few but theres italian military figures based on those that were from africa and served italy during ww2. These may be a help if your converting them. i will try and locate the sites for you some time this week. Possibly you could try and search out zulu figures and ammend the dress accordingly?
Martin
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 06:44 PM UTC
If you are just looking for "african" looking heads I found one:

Hornet makes HH05 Bare African heads, which might make it a bit easier to convert figures.

http://www.greenwichgateway.com/hornetandwolf/

Actually the Greatmodels.com website has a better picture:

http://www.greatmodels.com/cgi/display.cgi?item_num=hnhh05

HTH,
Chris
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 09:18 PM UTC
thanks guys, sorry its hard to remember all thse callsigns, but the DVD of black hawk down, is that the collectors edition, it must be because on the single disc one it doesnt have what you talk about. Is it just me or is there something wrong with that link for the afghanie militia, everytime i went to get in it said web page could not be found? Zach, my omaha dio was going to end up being WAY over anything i could afford, i will hopefully geta round to it in future, but i did end up doing one of the bunker/trench system that was attop the cliffs at omaha, i will get some pics here soon. cheers
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 09:25 PM UTC
Verlinden 1825 Desert City Mud Brick House look pretty sweet, and was probably inspired by the movie anyway.
Also, verlinden's taliban figures without the turbans might look good.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 09:26 PM UTC
cj_baller, i got the link working, they look pretty good actually, do u know the product number? they look excellent actually, the reason being i cant get ANY models ordered from the hobby shop unless i have the product/item number, and do u know how much it would work out to be in $AUS? thanks alot, cheers
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 02:59 PM UTC
The company MONROE PERDU also makes several "mid-eastern" plaster houses... and quite nice at that... if nothing else, it could give you some excellent ideas. And don't forget that many of the shops were originally built by European transported civilians, and therefore would bear quite a resemblance to the counterpart buidings of Europe in the early 1900's - 1920.
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 08:45 PM UTC
Okay, I found somthing else that may be of some us to you. This is a great site for pictures, the "witty" banter below the photos can be a little annoying, but oh well.

Here you go: www.militaryphotos.net
Than go to: Contemporary Military Photos
and finally to: Album: Operations Restore Hope and Gothic Serpent - Somalia - 1992-1993

-Chris
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 10:49 PM UTC
that link to the pics was really good, hey coltm4, whats the actuall link for verlindens site? keep the resources comin, lol, cheers
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Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2003 - 11:23 PM UTC
LWF

Here is the link to the Verlinden site
http://www.verlinden-productions.com/index.html

Hope it is of some help

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Posted: Friday, May 23, 2003 - 12:59 PM UTC
Thanks Faust , i wrote down alot of product numbers and will get the prices soon, cheers, anymore taliban fig sets anyone? i think they are gonna be a winner for converting, cheers
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Posted: Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 07:33 AM UTC
Hey lestweforget. This might be a bit late, but I was surfing a bit tonight and came across this and I thought Id post it here. Great range of heads for only $11. They are WW2 ascari heads but a lot of them may be suitable for what you want!!!

http://pacmodelscatalog.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PCM&Product_Code=cri_s051&Category_Code=fig_35

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Posted: Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 07:02 PM UTC
certainly isnt too late plasticbattle, thanks alo they are perfect, ive writen down the product number so ill see if i can get em in. cheers
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Posted: Monday, June 16, 2003 - 02:14 PM UTC
You will maybe have to modify, and then paint in dark brown colors.

~Chip
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