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Cascavels for Iraq
jphillips
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Posted: Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 01:44 PM UTC
http//br.youtube.com/watch?v=pFRVPGLsOFI

From www.militaryphotos.net



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Posted: Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 04:17 PM UTC
Thanks for the post. Whether it's "not really big news" or not, I doubt they were sporting chocolate chip paint jobs twenty years ago. As the video is a few months old, they don't reflect the new Iraqi flag. One would indeed make an interesting build.
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Posted: Friday, September 12, 2008 - 08:08 AM UTC

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Not really big news since they've had them for over 20 years, and as it says in the report, they are refurbised ones they all ready had.



Gary,
Actually it IS big news. Considering that they are about 20+ years old, it's a real testament to the forward-thinking of the design to be serviceable after all this time. Not too many AFV's have been considered viable after sitting that long. Engesa's genius in the Cascavel is the fact that many of the automotive components are commercially available (say that about modern US equipment). The weapons and fire control IIRC were made by French company and parts are still available. Who knows, Engesa may just rise from the ashes and start up again.
Regards,
Georg
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Posted: Friday, September 12, 2008 - 12:54 PM UTC

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They may be good for police backup or patrolling the cities, but other than that there not that great of weapon system.



Gary,
Which right now is precisely what the Iraqi's need. For the moment, I don't think they really need a good MBT, although I'm sure somebody in the western military-industrial complex will make a fat profit off of selling them some cast-off equipment.
Regards,
Georg
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