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IanArmorArt
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Illinois, United States
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Posted: Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 03:54 AM UTC
What types of paint do you use for brush painting on your figures, and what about thinner?

Well, I am specifically trying to cure a problem I am having with the Tamiya Acrylic Flats. The colors are spot on for what I am doing, but I've had some trouble with consistency. I have used good old tap water with other acrylic paints before, and can get a nice, thin coat of paint that will build to opaque, sometimes with a minimum number of coats. However, with the Tamiya paints, drying/gumming up seems to happen rather quickly as I brush onto the plastic, and will fill in detail areas, forcing me to have to strip the paint with the Acrylic Thinner that is available for Tamiya. It seems like I have to move overly fast to prevent this drying effect. I feel I am doing something wrong, but what? I have tried thinning with the Acrylic Thinner or Isopropyl Alcohol, but naturally, these tend to break the surface of the drying paint, which is obviously not a solution.

I am also considering that the paint bottle may become "contaminated" after a while if too much tap water enters the jar (even tiny amounts) over time. This tap water probably disturbs the original mixture.

Haven't used Testor Model Master paints in a while, so I don't know if the same problems will happen with their use.

Any recommendations for alternative brushing technique/paint brands/thinning agents would be appreciated.

Or if you think I'm completely Looney Tunes you can let me know that as well.

Ian



lespauljames
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Posted: Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 04:14 AM UTC
Two words

Vallejo
Acylic!

your problmes will be solved my friend
redcobra04
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Posted: Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 04:22 AM UTC
I agree that Tamiya acrylics dont brush very well. They dry way to fast. Great for air brushing though,
hkopper
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Posted: Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 05:34 AM UTC
When I brush, I will use Vallejo. The finish is perfect and it almost looks like it was applied with an air brush. I thin vallejo's acrylics with distilled water and works like a charm.
When I use an air brush I use Tamiya and I learned this the hard way ..Vallejo is not air brush friendly!! I thin Tamiya's line of acrylics using their brand of thinner.
Spiff
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Posted: Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 06:49 AM UTC
In order to be able to successfully brush paint Tamiya acrylics, you need to mix it with Tamiya Thinner which contains a drying retarder. That will give you much more time to work with the paint before it begins to dry, which will make it gum up and streak.

I usually mix very small batches at a time in a clean beer bottle cap. Put a few drops of Tamiya thinner in the cap with an eye dropper, then add a few drops of paint. Mix it up with a toothpick and you're good to go. If it starts to dry a bit after you've been working with it, just mix up another little batch. It's only a few drops at a time so it's no big deal.

Give it a try, you might like it.
panzerkampfw
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Posted: Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 06:58 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Vallejo is not air brush friendly!!



maybe you should thin them, then they will work
IanArmorArt
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Posted: Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 02:25 PM UTC
Thanks everyone for your responses. I've never tried the Vallejo Acrylics before, but went to the site to check out the color variety.

I will try the thinning method you described for the Tamiya Acrylics and see how it goes.

Thanks!

marsiascout
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Posted: Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 11:18 PM UTC
Vallejo gives a way better effect and it has allmost 300 colours in itīs Model Color Range, I thought 80 in itīs Game Color range and also a amount like that in itīs Model Air range. So for figure painting you have way more choice and it isnīt neccessarily anymore to mix a lot.

Lars
IanArmorArt
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Posted: Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 04:08 AM UTC
Where is the best place to buy the Vallejo Acrylics?

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