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Armor/AFV: Modern - USA
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Posted: Friday, October 03, 2008 - 10:49 AM UTC
Thanks to Frenchy for digging these out of Flickr, some new HMMWV's with lots of interesting modifications.
LED headlights and two new antenna, note the Frag 5 doors still.
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New plate to door without the balistic glass block, strange contraption between the two windshields.
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A move toward the not so new style sloped turret, frag 6 doors and better look at the gadget between the wind shield.
Do these machines ever look loaded down.
When will some one manufacture a plastic M1114 AND 1152?
Bill
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Posted: Friday, October 03, 2008 - 11:31 AM UTC
I won't comment on the "contraption" until it shows up on open sources. It is interesting though that the first vehicle has a light bar across the front of the windshield.
The LED headlamps were around at the beginning of my deployment last year. The pic I posted of our scorched front end shows a close up view of it. I've used a rhinestone behind the lens to replicate it. No paint yet, but it should lok all right.
Agree on the lack of kits, but I'm sure they'll appear before long.
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Posted: Friday, October 03, 2008 - 01:44 PM UTC
Hey guys, we where just talking about that device in the center of that Hummer while I was on hurricane duty. some of the guys that just came back was talking about it. If I remember the conversation correctly, it is supposed to be like the night driving device found on the Stryker. The SPC that was telling me about it said that in side on the drivers side is a flip down screen that shows the image when the system is on at night.
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Posted: Friday, October 03, 2008 - 05:44 PM UTC
Most of the stuff you're looking at has been around since 2006 or so. They are non-standard add ons offered by various commercial companies that are available through the supply system. The green antennae in the top picture are the new SINGARS antennae, they are longer ranged and are shorter in height to avoid catching on the low hanging powerlines that are everywhere in urban areas in Iraq. The door in the 3rd picture is the older style Frag 5 armor and the "missing" armored glass in the door is probably just lowered. (yes, they can be opened) The various turret designs are from different manufactorers. The camera device is one I haven't seen before, but my M1114 had a simular IR cam that was very effective.
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Posted: Friday, October 03, 2008 - 06:14 PM UTC
Info is already out there on the "device".

It took me about 5 minutes of internet searching to find info on it.....including an image of the device mount, the internal display, and I think I even found the patent for the mounting bracket.

Now, I do respect OPSEC so if you want info you will have to find the info and links yourself.
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Posted: Friday, October 03, 2008 - 07:33 PM UTC
Gary, thanks for watching my back on the OPSEC, but as Jason said, a few minutes searching on the internet turned up that it is called the Night Driver system by Raytheon. If they are mounting this system on civilan H1 and H2 Hummers and Cadillacs, I don't think OPSEC is a concern.

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Posted: Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 01:07 AM UTC
Here are some other views of the SINGARS antennas, thanks Joe.
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The light bar is similar to the ones Ibis Tek manufactures.
http://www.ibistek.com/lights.php
Thanks Pete, good to see you back.
Bill
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Posted: Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 02:38 AM UTC
I really, really want a PLASTIC, new tooled kit of a current Humvee. Don't want to spend a fortune on resin, although I'm sure that the aftermarket crew would have a field day with all the extra bits and peices that these things have mounted to them.

While I am on my rant, how about a PLASTIC set of current army grunts? There is nothing out there that comes even close. It's a pain just trying to get a couple of M-4's to add to a model.

Hopefully one of the major model makers will take a quick break from WW2 and release something from the current century.

Regards (and thanks for posting those cool pixs),

John
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Posted: Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 02:39 AM UTC
I have one thing to say about this thread, "Pimp my Humvee!"
18Bravo
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Posted: Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 10:35 AM UTC

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Info is already out there on the "device".

It took me about 5 minutes of internet searching to find info on it.....including an image of the device mount, the internal display, and I think I even found the patent for the mounting bracket.

Now, I do respect OPSEC so if you want info you will have to find the info and links yourself.



I don't spend a lot of time researching things on the net, especially things with which I'm familiar, I didn't know if there was information out there or not, hence my comment. Since it IS out there, fine, everyone can read it to their heart's content.
The thing about OPSEC is this: It's not always the fact that everyone knows something is out there. Most folks know Thermal Imaging technology exists, and how it works. It doesn't necessarily mean I want everyone to know who uses it. A lot of "innocent" knowledge helps an adversary better prepare himself and even implement ways of defetaing those technologies. Case in ppoint: The Rhino, which has now been rendered all but useless. Was it due to some dude posting it's dimensions and the particulars of it's function on the net? More than likely no, but why take a chance?
Here's a scenario I hope at least a couple of you can identify with: You're going out on a hit.
Your opposition knows your routes, your TTP's, your weapons, even your night vision capabilities. In some scanarios, that's a recipe for disaster. In others, not so much so. Personally, I want my adversary to know I'm not coming light...
'Nuff said on that. It's out there, now you know what it does. simply said I'm not supplying it unless I know it' out there.
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Posted: Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 12:13 PM UTC
I have no issues with OPSEC....been there, done it, lived it.

Inherently someone will post an image asking about a new piece of equipment seen on a publicly accessed image.....tis the fate of modern AFV modellers. The guys are just curious and detail minded....they mean no harm.

The solutions???....don't post the image.....post the image and don't ask or mention the equipment....don't answer the question ....or delete the post. I have seen all of those happen on postings regarding possible OPSEC issues.

Good points you have brought up and many folks have never served in the military so they don't know the potential short and long term issues surrounding talking about military equipment..........they just want to know when it will come out as an aftermarket part.

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