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WIP - knocked out KV1 dio
elph
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Posted: Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 07:00 PM UTC
I'm about 80% finished. There will be three figures: one kneeling at the fresh grave, one driving the cart and a wounded one lying in the back. I wanted to give the impression of impeding doom for the Germans and the knocked out KV-1 is a reminder of victories long gone, never to be repeated. Any comments welcome.













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Posted: Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 07:43 PM UTC
This really looks amazing. I like the casting on the turret. Those horses are beautiful painted.

Best Regards Manuel

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Posted: Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 10:53 PM UTC
That REALLY looks impressive - same with me, the casting on the turret is absolutely impeccable.

Only comment I have, is the horses are a touch glossy for my taste - they really need to be a little toned-down a bit...

Apart from that, your composition is really first-class and the finishing and build of the KV is really amazing..

Thanks for posting it!
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Posted: Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 11:58 PM UTC
really nice diorama !
the only criticism is the base, are you going to leave it or put it on a wooden base? it will look better!

but cracking dio!

what kit is the kv1?

Martyn
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Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 - 01:00 AM UTC

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Only comment I have, is the horses are a touch glossy for my taste - they really need to be a little toned-down a bit...



They are a bit glossy, but I don't really feel comfortable coating over oils. Last time I did that, I had some discolouration of the paint. I'll leave them as they are. Also, I'm not such a great photographer, so the natural lighting was a bit harsh and shiny. When I'm finished, I'll take the time to set up a photo studio, so hopefully the photos will do the finished diorama justice.

There will be no wooden base. I know people like bases and supposedly they influence judges, but I'm sort of developing a more "organic" feel. I carve to shape a piece of pink foam; great stuff and although it is a little expensive as far as foam goes, it replaces the need to make a wooden base. You can see the last two KV dioramas I did with the same idea of using styrofoam below.







tjkelly
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Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 - 10:52 AM UTC
Nice scene Brett. Your knocked out tank looks good sitting there, also like your groundwork. I think the horses and cart came out great! Very nice, thanks for sharing.

Cheers -
Tim
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Posted: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 06:46 PM UTC
wow! that is some great work. Love the ruined KV and, as others have stated, your groundwork looks sweet. Super dios
jimbrae
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Posted: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 08:51 PM UTC

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They are a bit glossy, but I don't really feel comfortable coating over oils. Last time I did that, I had some discolouration of the paint. I'll leave them as they are.



Have you tried the technique of 'wiping' oils? Basically, what you do is slap on the base color with a flat brush and then, using a soft sponge, you wipe the paint off leaving shades and highlights, Later on, when it's dried, you can add deeper highlights. Haven't done it for years, but it works very well indeed. Worth buying some cheap horses and trying it!

BTW, I like that idea of using the 'organic' base idea - it looks very effective indeed. I just think i'll give it a go...
Kuno-Von-Dodenburg
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Posted: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 10:39 PM UTC

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They are a bit glossy, but I don't really feel comfortable coating over oils. Last time I did that, I had some discolouration of the paint. I'll leave them as they are



You could also try hitting them with a coat of Dullcoat or similar BUT you have to wait until the oils are fully dry (and I mean FULLY dry) before you do that, otherwise you'll get the unwanted effect you describe and / or permanet glossiness.

I prefer to leave the subject to dry for two or three weeks or more before doing that - just to be on the safe side. That's a drawback of oils - they take ages to dry properly.

But back to your dio - I really like it a lot, nice composition and the irregular shaped foam base is a refreshing change.

- Steve
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Posted: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 12:26 AM UTC
Impressive work
elph
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Posted: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 - 01:25 AM UTC

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Have you tried the technique of 'wiping' oils? Basically, what you do is slap on the base color with a flat brush and then, using a soft sponge, you wipe the paint off leaving shades and highlights, Later on, when it's dried, you can add deeper highlights. Haven't done it for years, but it works very well indeed. Worth buying some cheap horses and trying it!



Sounds interesting.

I used a similar technique. I got the idea from one of the Bannerman articles on hot to paint figures in oils by using a dabbing motion with the brush, so you don't have brushstrokes. I had a similar idea of building up shadows using more coats with darker colours. If I did it again, I would undercoat the horse with a lighter tone of the horse colour, in this case a light burnt sienna and light burnt umber, so the highlights would look more prominent. I think I used gunze wood brown as an undercoat for these horses. As is I was fairly satisfied for my first try at horses. They can really add to the impressiveness of a diorama. I hope to use more in the future.



1969
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Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 07:25 AM UTC
I like what you are doing with this dio Brett.

Steve
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Posted: Sunday, October 12, 2008 - 03:35 AM UTC
All the work you have showed us is exceptional in my opinion. Well done and please keep posting your works.

Darryl
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Posted: Sunday, October 12, 2008 - 06:44 AM UTC
they are immense, thats it, im doing away with wodden bases for good!!
how do you colour your earth?
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