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jagdpanzer 4 ao

gridjockey

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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2008 - 06:33 AM UTC

have not seen to many of these builds thought i would give it a go

tjkelly

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Posted: Friday, October 24, 2008 - 09:34 PM UTC

Looks like you've got a good start there Dave, nice clean build. Did notice one thing, looks like you've got a gap on the last picture, where the upper and lower hull meet. Maybe you've just not glued them together yet, just dry-fit them for now.

Keep at it, thanks for sharing. Cheers -

Tim

marsiascout

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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 01:35 AM UTC

I agree with Tim. But, do you have photo's of the original vehicle? Never heard of this one.

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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 01:37 AM UTC

Looks good so far David. Are you going to paint a solid color or create a camo?

I only found out a few months ago that this little known Jagdpanzer was the first version made with it's smooth corners on the front.

gridjockey

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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 04:48 AM UTC

considering a three tone ambush scheme

johhar

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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 05:00 AM UTC

Which kit is this? Manufacturer? Kit #?
Thanks

jjumbo

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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 06:17 AM UTC

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Which kit is this? Manufacturer? Kit #?
Thanks

Hey Jonathan,
It's Dragon's Imperial Series Jagdpanzer IV A-0, kit #9059

http://www.dragonmodelsltd.com/html/9059p1.htm

http://www.dragonmodelsltd.com/html/9059-reviews.htm

Cheers

jjumbo

PvtMutt

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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 07:58 AM UTC

I've got one of these also.
Took me awhile to find one and wouldn't you know its been
on the shelf for almost 2 years now.
Anyway,i'm watching this build of yours.

Thanks for your pictures
Tony the Mutt

Desmoquattro

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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 09:51 AM UTC

Was this one of the III/IV hybrids or the genuine IV chassis? The rear hull looks like the hybrid model but with a lower superstructure.

jjumbo

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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 12:40 PM UTC

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Was this one of the III/IV hybrids or the genuine IV chassis? The rear hull looks like the hybrid model but with a lower superstructure.

Hey Jason,
The A-0 was the pre-production series of prototypes for the Jagdpanzer IV and was built on the standard Panzer IV chassis by Volmag.
The rounded corners of the superstructure were dropped before full scale manufacture began to simplify production and improve the ballistic shape of the vehicle.

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/jagdpanzer-iv-sd-kfz-162-75mm-l48-1944.htm#jagd4

Cheers

jjumbo

chefchris

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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 12:51 PM UTC

I got one when it was released, great little kit! It should have the rubber rimmed return rollers though and (most likely) zimmerit.

Chris

bizzychicken

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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 01:19 PM UTC

I think this protatype had a mild steel superstruture too. Don't think it did have zimmmerit.

johhar

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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 01:29 PM UTC

My LHS has the Tamiya Jagdpanzer IV.
Found two DML 9059 on ebay to "buy now" for 33.00 and 25.20.

http://shop.ebay.com/items/__dml-9059_W0QQ_nkwZdmlQ209059QQ_npmdnuZQQ_trksidZm38Q2el1313

jjumbo

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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 01:55 PM UTC

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I think this protatype had a mild steel superstruture too. Don't think it did have zimmmerit.

Geraint,
A mild steel test vehicle was presented before Herr Hitler in October 1943 and the final prototypes were ready by December 1943.
IIRC, application of zimmerit started in September 1943 and I've seen a series of photos of one of the A-0 series covered with it.

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My LHS has the Tamiya Jagdpanzer IV.
Found two DML 9059 on ebay to "buy now" for 33.00 and 25.20.

Jonathan,
Tamiya's Jagdpanzer IV is ancient and Italeri produced a Jagdpanzer IV but it's OOP.
Dragon's more recent Jagdpanzer IV L/48 Early #9021 and Jagdpanzer IV L/70 Command version #9043 are a bit more accurate.
Cheers

jjumbo

gridjockey

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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 02:16 PM UTC

your'e right about the return rollers may have to change that. also a problem with the style of tracks used , hollow or solid guides. also a ? about the illuminated rear tailight, boxed with fipped up gate or late style tubular or none at all. the german war machine had numerous variations and you never know about what field modifications were incorperated due to the short supplies of spare parts. im tempted to mix it up with a couple of steel wheels and maybe a couple of rubber return rollers.also the wheel caps are wrong but then again what kind of refitting was used durring war time. there are so many what if's.

jjumbo

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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 03:08 PM UTC

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your'e right about the return rollers may have to change that. also a problem with the style of tracks used , hollow or solid guides. also a ? about the illuminated rear tailight, boxed with fipped up gate or late style tubular or none at all. the german war machine had numerous variations and you never know about what field modifications were incorperated due to the short supplies of spare parts. im tempted to mix it up with a couple of steel wheels and maybe a couple of rubber return rollers.also the wheel caps are wrong but then again what kind of refitting was used durring war time. there are so many what if's.

Hey Dave,
I would stick with the 4 return rollers as the A-0 series of vehicles were built in 1943.
Can't find anything on the numbers built but it couldn't have been too many.
Vomag started building the "Guderian Duck's", the Panzer IV/70 (V) with the long gun, in August 1944 with 4 rollers.
The later model hulls with 3 return rollers and steel forward road wheels was introduced much later.
You could certainly assume that early style tracks and other retro parts could be found on an "old warrior" that's survived the battles in 1944-45.
Cheers

jjumbo

gridjockey

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Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 04:49 PM UTC

Thanx for the info, the Munster museum has a surviving one i believe it is the one that was used at a training facility durring the war http://www.panzer-modell.de/referenz/in_detail/jagdpanzer4a0/jpz4.htm

jjumbo

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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 05:26 AM UTC

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Thanx for the info, the Munster museum has a surviving one i believe it is the one that was used at a training facility durring the war http://www.panzer-modell.de/referenz/in_detail/jagdpanzer4a0/jpz4.htm

Hey Dave,
Thanks for the info !!
Wasn't aware that there was one still around as I've only seen wartime photos.
Nice to see one of these prototypes "in the flesh" so to speak !!!
Cheers

jjumbo

JackBlock

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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 05:35 AM UTC

Looking forward to the progress of this kit. I've got one in my stash (been there a while). Any particular bugaboos with this kit thus far. By the by I've subscribed to this links. Thank you for sharing.
Cheers

Dave

gridjockey

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Posted: Monday, October 27, 2008 - 11:53 AM UTC

some more progress and just test fittin